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Old 06-15-2015, 10:48 AM   #151
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

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Old 06-15-2015, 10:49 AM   #152
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road getting to the red side of my list.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:49 AM   #153
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I like you regardless of your alignment. Let me know if you want to do some role hunting later.
Sure. Slender is the cop and bomb, my teammate, is buddying them so when they flip cop overnight or after the lynch today, they look supportive.

It's nice to have a friend, banks. Even if I have to eventually kill you.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:49 AM   #154
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Hi all!

Eh. It's a null in my opinion. On my home site, some people consider it a scum tell, and then they're wrong about as often as a random guess. Some innocents (though probably not many here) don't realize that it naturally sounds scummy, some like to say it anyways cause it's the honest truth for them, and some do it on purpose to try and increase their scum-factor for whatever reason.

So my first thought after reading over all the bios is that Doc sounds like he could be my twin, and I'm either going to have a really tough time reading him, or I'm going to agree with everything he says, naturally want to trust him, and then be constantly paranoid that he was too easy a read. The latter is totally how I felt about Fiction in game 5.
also think this entrance is awkward

i think they would call it a SHAPE read here
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:50 AM   #155
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Hi. Looking forward to play with you. Will this be early mornings/middle of nights in this game or in your timezone? (which is New York?)

I dont think it is an amateur wolftell. I dont think it is a tell. I think it would be the most standard opening regardless of your role. Actually from my little experience i think that starting out claiming wolf is slightly more often a wolf than a villager, therefore claiming villager, should mathematically be sliiiiiiiiiiightly more villagery than wolfy..
Mathematically doesn't come into it. Even if you found that Mafia will more often claim to be Mafia than Town would claim to be Mafia, that doesn't have anything to do with the maths behind the odds of Town claiming Town over Mafia claiming Town.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:51 AM   #156
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Once I have walked my dog I will be able to be here for several hours.

A few notes before I do anything more than just search my name:

I find it kind of weird that saying good morning could be seen as wolfy, and the person who said this then follows up as if it is some great big alignment thing why at 8:30 in the morning (or so) I might not have time to be readily available. I don't know if this is a good or bad weird yet, but it's for sure weird. Bankertin was the man, for reference.

I won my putt putt game and established dominance over my 5 year old nephew and 6 year old niece. They were totally demoralized.

Quick question to come back to: who among the wild cards read the other games?

Be back soon.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:52 AM   #157
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Sure. Slender is the cop and bomb, my teammate, is buddying them so when they flip cop overnight or after the lynch today, they look supportive.

It's nice to have a friend, banks. Even if I have to eventually kill you.
Got a different seer read atm. but yours is a good choice.

I don't mind dying as long as I do so gloriously. Make sure to include a bunch of stuff in chat about how my picture should be a donkey and not a goat.

Bomb not doing bad at all although you should prolly bus his first post is getting a good chunk of heat.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:52 AM   #158
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Literally anything but a tell. ANYTHING but that. The working assumption is everyone will claim villager. Actually openly claiming it is viewed as a severe decorum breach and faux pas. You role reveal if your back is to a corner or, in more complex games, you're in an open chatting relationship witg someone else and you use role reveal as a bargaining chip to gain more trust. Openly saying anything of strategic value day 1 *feels* like a lie. Whether it is or not is less relevant. And if your allegiance feels like a lie, that's bad.
did smartbomb's post feel like a lie to you, and if it did why?
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:52 AM   #159
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aside from just the fact that it was said on day 1
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:53 AM   #160
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also think this entrance is awkward

i think they would call it a SHAPE read here
Explain the shape read plz.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:53 AM   #161
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If I said that your OP seemed like it could possibly be 'digging up dirt for the sake of digging up dirt', I would assume that everyone understood what I meant.
I'm asking you to go through specific parts of my OP and explain how they are like that. For future reference, if I'm confused about your meaning, I'll tell you.

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I found Bomb's reaction to pressure (even if it was slight) unexpected. Submissive, as if his 'flow' got disturbed. Or the tone he posted in, if you wish to call it that. He seemed to be in a haste to set things straight, and that seemed like it could be 'cracking up'. Right now I'm more inclined to think it's personality-, not alignment-indicative.
"Interesting" tends to come off as a scumread. Why not explain everything instead of making a vague and non-committal comment?

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Seemed confident to me in the way that Mafioso-townreads/whiteknightings could be.
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With Bomb I think (based on the impression I have of him from game 5) playing the 'Bad Cop' moreso than the 'Good Cop' can be a very efficient way of getting readable content out of him. Not saying I played the Bad Cop per se, rather that indirect inquisition that is more pressuring than polite can be more effective.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:53 AM   #162
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Morning everyone. I work a lot of nights this week (did have the weekend off though) so predict a lot of early morning and middle of the night talking from me and then dead silence mid day as I sleep.

Just getting up now actually and red through the thread. Already love all of you.... which is to say that any of you who cannot prove to have good logical reasoning and a willingness to kill to learn more will end up on my sh*t list.

Going to go get prepped for the day and then chat witg you guys a bit.

But honest question, in what world is saying "glad I'm a villager" day 1 not the most amateur wolf tell ever? In my world that's an auto lynch just for either being that stupid of a newbie or for making a "meta" joke as a veteran that no one really appreciates.

I am giving half of the benefit of the doubt that that sort of light hearted shenanigans is more acceptable where he comes from. But I fully believe "WW (mafia) is serious business"
So in your world, that's an auto lynch? That means you're changing your playstyle to appeal to people playing here. Interesting. Interesting. Can't wait to see how changing everything that makes you "you" works out for...you.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:54 AM   #163
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

This is where I am:

Villagery:
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:56 AM   #164
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Quick question to come back to: who among the wild cards read the other games?
i read all of games 4 and 5

i skimmed game 3

only read day 1 of game 1

read everything except day 1 of game 2
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:56 AM   #165
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Mathematically doesn't come into it. Even if you found that Mafia will more often claim to be Mafia than Town would claim to be Mafia, that doesn't have anything to do with the maths behind the odds of Town claiming Town over Mafia claiming Town.
This discussion is irrelevant for the game, but I can see what you mean, as they can choose not to claim..
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:56 AM   #166
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Once I have walked my dog I will be able to be here for several hours.

A few notes before I do anything more than just search my name:

I find it kind of weird that saying good morning could be seen as wolfy, and the person who said this then follows up as if it is some great big alignment thing why at 8:30 in the morning (or so) I might not have time to be readily available. I don't know if this is a good or bad weird yet, but it's for sure weird. Bankertin was the man, for reference.

I won my putt putt game and established dominance over my 5 year old nephew and 6 year old niece. They were totally demoralized.

Quick question to come back to: who among the wild cards read the other games?

Be back soon.
Glad to hear you let them know what's what on the greens. The way you talk about it makes me laugh and thats the best thing that has happened in this thread so far. Aside from fonti hating me.

I was trying to get your attention thanks for noticing me
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:56 AM   #167
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Can you point to something more specific?


Why?


I don't like how you're deflecting here. I'm asking you why you found him to be awkward at that point. Address that.


That's fair. Why not say say that, then?


You agreed with me, I agreed with your logic, and you sounded genuine. It's a start.
Could you be specific in the specific ways you would specifically like slender to be specific? Specifically your specific response is what I'm specifically after.

Ease up on the cop, fonti.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:58 AM   #168
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Oops, sorry, didn't realize he was the cop.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:58 AM   #169
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I'm in a good mood and far less nervous than I was last game where I was basically ****ting myself every single minute.
And how come you are not that nervous? This is game 6!! the step just before the final and epic game of champions, and you are not that nervous?
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:00 AM   #170
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@Achro
I've read my own game (3) and read most of game 1 and skimmed game 4
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:00 AM   #171
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I read game 1 in its entirety

I read parts of game 2 mostly EoDs

I read game 3.... three times once during final 3!

I read game 4

I have read exactly Smartbomb's filter in Game 5.

I will read more once the info becomes useful.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:01 AM   #172
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Explain the shape read plz.
i thought that was the term people used for posts they think read awkwardly
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:02 AM   #173
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:02 AM   #174
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I read some of Game 1, some of Games 2, 3 and 5, and none of Game 4.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:03 AM   #175
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Hi everybody! Sorry, I thought I posted this before my morning meeting. Damn work getting in the way of good mafia-ing.

Here are all my feelings right now....

Banks talks a lot. Talking alot for the sake of talking can be good in getting stuff out or it can be scum trying to much up the boards with nonsense. Nothing definitive yet as a read but it stood out to me.

Slendy's "Once I've seen more posts from you" post bothers me and intrigues me. It's a very "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality. I dunno - could be good strategy but it is not something I would do. Maybe it's because I am more cautious of my vote within the first 2 hours that the game is open and I want to get a sense of how people are posting? But the answer to "Why are you voting for me?" is awesome if it works.

still digesting others but those are the two that immediately stood out for comment.
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