Wow. I just realized that the vote tallies are listed with the voters in alphabetical order instead of posting order. I guess I've been spoiled by our tally program that lists voters in posting order.
Warning: wall of text incoming.
I've been wrestling with where to put my vote for a while now. MSU's far and away the leader at the moment. Discounting the bhuber votes (cause OMGUS and...Swifting? aren't really worth acknowledging in my opinion), cue is the only other person with more than one vote at the moment.
If I voted for cue now, it would be for the same reasons I gave last night: potential information, concern I won't ever be able to read him, and a general disconnect on playstyles. None of those are terribly great reasons. I think cue actually said very early on about me that he finds such disconnects usually to be indicative of town. On my forum, I'd tend to agree. Here, I don't know if I agree as strongly, but it's certainly possible.
Riki was the other potential vote I mentioned last night. I hate, hate, hate the MSU vote. It was clearly for pressure at time when pressure wasn't needed. I felt tons of pressure with the 2 early votes I got, I'm sure MSU was already feeling the pressure with the 2 votes he already had. But everything else about her is really town, and many people agree. I think I'm just going to have to chalk up the vote up to culture differences.
I don't think I'm any more or less inclined to vote for Doc now than I was a few hours ago. Though I do notice that when I interpreted his read on me as at least a slight scumread and called him out for having too many scumreads, he quickly backpedaled his read on me to a null. His defense of MSU is what's got me thinking twice. Especially if MSU is lynched and flips town, Doc definitely gets less scummy in my eyes. At this point, if MSU is mafia, I think his teammates would be more likely to bus him.
MSU - man, I don't know what to think here. It seems too easy. Several people I like are voting for him, several of the people I'm considering voting for aren't voting for him. For much of the day he was the low-hanging fruit because of his absence. It's just too neat. The case against him basically boils down to being absent and posting "weak reads." If, like he says, he comes from a culture like mine that's way, way more relaxed about day 1's and reads, it's hard for me to fault him for that. The OMGUS vote...I'm not sold on the explanation, but I'm just not sure what him doing it says about him. I'm ok if he gets lynched, as he's definitely not higher than a null read for me, but my policy is, unless there's a really compelling reason, to vote for the person that I'm most suspicious of.
SmartBomb
I already started with my comments in
656. It convinced me to go back and reread his posts for the day. Aside from the already-much-discussed "I'm town" opening, it was a lot of fluff before the game got serious, which was fine.
His first real post is to put a second vote on me. That's eyebrow-raising to me (regardless of the fact that I was the one he picked), but town do it to get pressure going early too. I put my first set of reads out there and he immediately puts me near the top of his town list. I mean, it was appreciated, but in retrospect, it's a pretty big swing. Heck, road was called out by several for liking the same post of mine, and road was only forming a first opinion, not changing a previous one.
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Originally Posted by SmartBomb
Yeah.
First post I had issue with is road reading Acromatic reading cue. For the same reasons that road disliked Achro I dislike road, it seems like a forced scumread that he needs in order for later in case he needs a lynch later.
The questions to cue mean nothing about the state of the game, I can think of several other questions that would've been more pertinent than asking about the question from those two posts.
I then began to realise that I don't remember any of road's probably 20-odd posts and that irritates me. Then I remembered I didn't remember any of road's posts in Game 3, either.
He pushes on road quite a bit, but claiming he doesn't remember any of road's posts before the 2 recent ones makes it a pretty ineffective push. And one that he eventually stops pushing.
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Originally Posted by SmartBomb
I still don't like MSU, the reads on Achro and Doc don't actually state why they're town, bhuber's a very simple read, what happened to Riki...? Just the third vote thing that flipped him from one of your townreads to scumreads? An easy standby? Like I've heard of this and I know people believe in it but it's such a weak reason for someone who you were calling town before
MSU now that he's back and I still don't like him
He places the 4th vote on MSU, after Riki's pressure vote and MSU comes back to defend himself. I don't hate this vote quite as much as I hate Riki's vote, but 4th on a wagon isn't a whole lot better than 3rd, and he barely addresses any of MSU's actual new posts beyond picking Riki to shoot in Banks's little hypothetical.
He keeps pushing at Doc as well. As hard, if not harder, than he's pushed MSU. After rereading him, I feel like I expected his vote to be on Doc. Also, I note that 3 of the people he's pushed on/voted for today (me, MSU, Doc) have all been fairly low-hanging fruit because of our inexperience with this format.
That catches me up to post 656, which I've already gone over. MSU's drawing heat for posting non-commital reads. SmartBomb's bhuber read was designed to cast suspicion on him regardless of how MSU flips, and based on an assumption that I think is blatantly wrong. That's scummier to me than non-commital reads from someone who's been busy.
I'm not the kind of player to jump on one of the leading wagons at the end of the day just because. I'll switch if someone can convince me that MSU (or whoever else) is a scummier read. Also, I may not be around for the last hour or two of the day. If I have to leave, I'll let you all know when I'm leaving.