#2 Game of Mafia Champions (WW Invitational) - Game Thread
10-17-2013
, 10:14 PM
10-17-2013
, 10:24 PM
Ragnarok:
You should see me, yamato and VE in action on TL.
Game related, i am shocked by the amount of people who are willing to do nothing on D1. I thought the "championship" game was above that "let's wait for night actions and follow roles XYZ dundun" bull****. The worst part is all of those people can't possibly be mafia. :/
You should see me, yamato and VE in action on TL.
Game related, i am shocked by the amount of people who are willing to do nothing on D1. I thought the "championship" game was above that "let's wait for night actions and follow roles XYZ dundun" bull****. The worst part is all of those people can't possibly be mafia. :/
10-17-2013
, 10:31 PM
10-17-2013
, 10:32 PM
10-17-2013
, 10:40 PM
catching up still which is apparent as I basically said this:
in response to the same quote. 
I like smileys btw. You guys lack a lot of them. We have like 300 of real people.
Quote:
I find this post very funny because this is my signature on Vendetta Strada:
"It's in my experience scum, regardless of who they are or how skilled they are, absolutely, positively hate attention on themselves and their teammates, and will general go out of their way to avoid actually speaking about them, even subconciously, because it's hella hard to lie about someones alignment when you already know it."
One of the best players there once said that. In a game where he was scum. This definitely doesn't apply to good scum players. I laughed so hard when i read this because it totally gave away his alignment.
"It's in my experience scum, regardless of who they are or how skilled they are, absolutely, positively hate attention on themselves and their teammates, and will general go out of their way to avoid actually speaking about them, even subconciously, because it's hella hard to lie about someones alignment when you already know it."
One of the best players there once said that. In a game where he was scum. This definitely doesn't apply to good scum players. I laughed so hard when i read this because it totally gave away his alignment.
I like smileys btw. You guys lack a lot of them. We have like 300 of real people.
10-17-2013
, 10:41 PM
10-17-2013
, 10:45 PM
10-17-2013
, 10:45 PM
10-17-2013
, 11:05 PM
Here are my thoughts on the current activity level and atmosphere surrounding the players:
** Players that appear Engaged:
-Darthe. He enters by advocating lynching the scummiest player, and he engages a lot of players when he thinks something's up with their logic, like in Post 187.
-well named. Yeah, opening by claiming villager seemed weird to me, but he makes good points and advocates lynching the scummiest players each round. His logic seems solid and his long posts are always about inner thought process rather than fluff.
-dbmurph22. Funny and alert. Doesn't seem shaken when people glance in his direction. Has potential to be a town leader, I'd wager.
-yamato77. He was the hound dog of the early part of the day but then went away. I expect him to come back. I like his approach of treating the game like it's vanilla.
-TommyDanger. Comes in with a bang, and advocates for lynching D1. He says we can force the scummiest people to claim so they're locked into their claims, but we don't want mass claiming. I like his atmosphere so far, playful but perceptive.
-BLFG. He's on STS from the start because he thinks proposing a no-lynch is suspicious. He took the torch from yamato in questioning people for the latter half of the game so far.
-Valar Morghulis. He came in late but he's got some a genuine feeling to him, and he advocates lynching D1. He mentions he likes to have OT talks with people, but I see why. I think it's kinda interesting he votes for Tommy but ignores STS voting for him. He votes for crabby after WN and Vineetrika.
** Players that appear Pensive:
-Maki. He opens by asking if lynching is the only weapon we've got, and says if we've got Vigs then we shouldn't lynch anyone. Claims that experienced players don't try to prove they're town or scum unless prompted by someone else. Says that this "puts a few people on his suspicious list right out of the gate" but doesn't specify whom until yamato promots. He says WN, VE, Darthe. Says people claiming villager are more likely to be scum than not, but explains how different gaming cultures could cloud his judgment. Non-commital responses, IMO. He waffles between appearing engaged and appearing aloof, which is a bad sign to me. I'm still put off by how Darthe said in Post 221 that Maki was "really scumhunting." In Post 254 he literally says he likes to join wagons at the end of the day. I dislike Post 386 because it shows he's watching the thread but doesn't seem to care what happens.
-STS_za. He opened the game by loosely advocating no lynching, and then saying he'll mainly lurk and listen, because lynching could lead to a mistake. But people keep getting on his case so he replies to them. He's apologetic and timid for the most part, as if he's trying not to cause a splash. I said he was probably town during his fight with BLFG but now I'm not sure after a second read. Saying it's "too soon to have suspects" in Post 201 stands out to me, and he says again in Post 212 that reactions are unreliable until late game. I kind of agree with that, but not with the way he says it. In Post 238 he was suddenly explosive about how BLFG was misrepresenting him, but I didn't see it, and told him to go clear his head. He later votes for Valar, which seems random to me seeing as how Valar had JUST appeared and STS was earlier saying "it's too soon to have suspects."
-Vineetrika. Opens with "I'm a slow reader" and comes back with a vote for Crabby and some explanation. I put him in pensive because he said his opinion may not be accurate. Do opinions need to be accurate? I'd like to see more from him today.
-Kojiru. I forgot this guy was even in the game until I did this re-read, which is a bad sign. He opens by saying he's excited about activity, but then isn't active himself. In Post 199 he says he wants to see everyone post before he posts, that's a bad sign too, there's plenty to discuss by that time.
-Shin Zangetsu. This has been discussed a bunch, but he seemed like he worked himself into a corner right off the bat. Called dbmurph a fence sitter and voted for him; I disagree.
** Players that are somewhere in the middle:
-Chips Ahoy. One of the regulars here, but I have no idea what he's doing. He opens with a vote for Vagos, another of the regulars. Then votes for BLFG based on his bio? When Vagos, myself, and BLFG ask for explanation, he ignores us, but he instead puts suspicion on well named, and then laughs off BLFG's prompt. That's a good amount of finger pointing with little substance.
-Ragnarock. Dude doesn't say anything substantial for the first 3 pages or so. I will say this is consistent with his claimed "I like to watch in D1" persona, as I played a turbo game with him and he got lynched in D1 for not voting.
-VisceraEyes. He opened with a villager claim and said well named was a suspect of his right off the bat because he wasn't sure if he was advocating a random lynch or not. He took it back promptly though, due to a misunderstanding.
-chrisrjdk. Not sure if he's just busy or bored, but he's one of the regulars here yet hasn't contributed much. I think he advocates lynching.
-Vagos. Opens with a video, a town read on VE and WE. Admits he's lurking for now, says VE yamato, WN and Valar are good guys. Doesn't like Maki or BLFG.
-Crabby_MyBB. Opens with that now-famed multiquote, but doesn't say a lot. I agree with him that Maki is saying timid things though.
-cjkalt. Comes in late, but makes a good (IMO) point that random lynch defeats the purpose of scumhunting. Says chrisrjdk is probably town.
-lenC. He's a regular here, and it seems like the regulars are too cool to jump into the game with the rest of us plebes or something. Votes for WN, then BLFG immediately interrogates him. I can't tell if he's avoiding the questions or just being half-invested like the other regulars.
** Players that are missing or too early to say:
-GMaster479. Missing.
-CPHoya. Missing.
-Bell. Just got here. Pithy entrance.
-Montorency. Just arrived right as I finished writing this. Randomly voted for BLFG? Needs follow-up.
I am more inclined to trust people who advocate lynching the scummiest player each day rather than advocating a no lynch and waiting for more information. Lynching *is* information. For this reason and others stated above, Maki was my top suspect until the moment I realized STS looks really bad with his "it's too early to have suspects" coupled with immediately voting for Valar when he appears, as pointed out by BLFG in Post 299.
STS_za requires further discussion, as does Maki, but the former gets my vote tonight. At least we've got some leads, not bad for just 12 hours or so.
Okay, that took entirely too long, and I'm going to get ready for bed. Work in the AM.
** Players that appear Engaged:
-Darthe. He enters by advocating lynching the scummiest player, and he engages a lot of players when he thinks something's up with their logic, like in Post 187.
-well named. Yeah, opening by claiming villager seemed weird to me, but he makes good points and advocates lynching the scummiest players each round. His logic seems solid and his long posts are always about inner thought process rather than fluff.
-dbmurph22. Funny and alert. Doesn't seem shaken when people glance in his direction. Has potential to be a town leader, I'd wager.
-yamato77. He was the hound dog of the early part of the day but then went away. I expect him to come back. I like his approach of treating the game like it's vanilla.
-TommyDanger. Comes in with a bang, and advocates for lynching D1. He says we can force the scummiest people to claim so they're locked into their claims, but we don't want mass claiming. I like his atmosphere so far, playful but perceptive.
-BLFG. He's on STS from the start because he thinks proposing a no-lynch is suspicious. He took the torch from yamato in questioning people for the latter half of the game so far.
-Valar Morghulis. He came in late but he's got some a genuine feeling to him, and he advocates lynching D1. He mentions he likes to have OT talks with people, but I see why. I think it's kinda interesting he votes for Tommy but ignores STS voting for him. He votes for crabby after WN and Vineetrika.
** Players that appear Pensive:
-Maki. He opens by asking if lynching is the only weapon we've got, and says if we've got Vigs then we shouldn't lynch anyone. Claims that experienced players don't try to prove they're town or scum unless prompted by someone else. Says that this "puts a few people on his suspicious list right out of the gate" but doesn't specify whom until yamato promots. He says WN, VE, Darthe. Says people claiming villager are more likely to be scum than not, but explains how different gaming cultures could cloud his judgment. Non-commital responses, IMO. He waffles between appearing engaged and appearing aloof, which is a bad sign to me. I'm still put off by how Darthe said in Post 221 that Maki was "really scumhunting." In Post 254 he literally says he likes to join wagons at the end of the day. I dislike Post 386 because it shows he's watching the thread but doesn't seem to care what happens.
-STS_za. He opened the game by loosely advocating no lynching, and then saying he'll mainly lurk and listen, because lynching could lead to a mistake. But people keep getting on his case so he replies to them. He's apologetic and timid for the most part, as if he's trying not to cause a splash. I said he was probably town during his fight with BLFG but now I'm not sure after a second read. Saying it's "too soon to have suspects" in Post 201 stands out to me, and he says again in Post 212 that reactions are unreliable until late game. I kind of agree with that, but not with the way he says it. In Post 238 he was suddenly explosive about how BLFG was misrepresenting him, but I didn't see it, and told him to go clear his head. He later votes for Valar, which seems random to me seeing as how Valar had JUST appeared and STS was earlier saying "it's too soon to have suspects."
-Vineetrika. Opens with "I'm a slow reader" and comes back with a vote for Crabby and some explanation. I put him in pensive because he said his opinion may not be accurate. Do opinions need to be accurate? I'd like to see more from him today.
-Kojiru. I forgot this guy was even in the game until I did this re-read, which is a bad sign. He opens by saying he's excited about activity, but then isn't active himself. In Post 199 he says he wants to see everyone post before he posts, that's a bad sign too, there's plenty to discuss by that time.
-Shin Zangetsu. This has been discussed a bunch, but he seemed like he worked himself into a corner right off the bat. Called dbmurph a fence sitter and voted for him; I disagree.
** Players that are somewhere in the middle:
-Chips Ahoy. One of the regulars here, but I have no idea what he's doing. He opens with a vote for Vagos, another of the regulars. Then votes for BLFG based on his bio? When Vagos, myself, and BLFG ask for explanation, he ignores us, but he instead puts suspicion on well named, and then laughs off BLFG's prompt. That's a good amount of finger pointing with little substance.
-Ragnarock. Dude doesn't say anything substantial for the first 3 pages or so. I will say this is consistent with his claimed "I like to watch in D1" persona, as I played a turbo game with him and he got lynched in D1 for not voting.
-VisceraEyes. He opened with a villager claim and said well named was a suspect of his right off the bat because he wasn't sure if he was advocating a random lynch or not. He took it back promptly though, due to a misunderstanding.
-chrisrjdk. Not sure if he's just busy or bored, but he's one of the regulars here yet hasn't contributed much. I think he advocates lynching.
-Vagos. Opens with a video, a town read on VE and WE. Admits he's lurking for now, says VE yamato, WN and Valar are good guys. Doesn't like Maki or BLFG.
-Crabby_MyBB. Opens with that now-famed multiquote, but doesn't say a lot. I agree with him that Maki is saying timid things though.
-cjkalt. Comes in late, but makes a good (IMO) point that random lynch defeats the purpose of scumhunting. Says chrisrjdk is probably town.
-lenC. He's a regular here, and it seems like the regulars are too cool to jump into the game with the rest of us plebes or something. Votes for WN, then BLFG immediately interrogates him. I can't tell if he's avoiding the questions or just being half-invested like the other regulars.
** Players that are missing or too early to say:
-GMaster479. Missing.
-CPHoya. Missing.
-Bell. Just got here. Pithy entrance.
-Montorency. Just arrived right as I finished writing this. Randomly voted for BLFG? Needs follow-up.
I am more inclined to trust people who advocate lynching the scummiest player each day rather than advocating a no lynch and waiting for more information. Lynching *is* information. For this reason and others stated above, Maki was my top suspect until the moment I realized STS looks really bad with his "it's too early to have suspects" coupled with immediately voting for Valar when he appears, as pointed out by BLFG in Post 299.
STS_za requires further discussion, as does Maki, but the former gets my vote tonight. At least we've got some leads, not bad for just 12 hours or so.
Okay, that took entirely too long, and I'm going to get ready for bed. Work in the AM.
10-17-2013
, 11:06 PM
Quote:
#2 Player: BLFG
Username for this game: BLFG
Representing: Vendetta Strada
Started playing in: 2011
Qualifications:
BLFG was voted in to act as the sole representative for Vendetta Strada.
One of BLFG’s strongest strengths and plusses on his resume is the fact that he practically never gets lynched. He has only been lynched twice as town (once he lynched himself for a reason, and another time the mafia quickhammered him at lylo). In addition, on his home site of Vendetta Strada he has never been lynched as mafia.
BLFG has played ~30 games on Vendetta Strada and ~25 games on Team Liquid.
Bio:
"You either love him or you hate him (sometimes during the same phase)! Very aggressive, very active and very vocal about his suspicions. Dangerous for you if you do not share the same affiliation. Sometimes has serious problems communicating with other players. Whatever happens in the thread, BLFG will have a part in it!"
Username for this game: BLFG
Representing: Vendetta Strada
Started playing in: 2011
Qualifications:
BLFG was voted in to act as the sole representative for Vendetta Strada.
One of BLFG’s strongest strengths and plusses on his resume is the fact that he practically never gets lynched. He has only been lynched twice as town (once he lynched himself for a reason, and another time the mafia quickhammered him at lylo). In addition, on his home site of Vendetta Strada he has never been lynched as mafia.
BLFG has played ~30 games on Vendetta Strada and ~25 games on Team Liquid.
Bio:
"You either love him or you hate him (sometimes during the same phase)! Very aggressive, very active and very vocal about his suspicions. Dangerous for you if you do not share the same affiliation. Sometimes has serious problems communicating with other players. Whatever happens in the thread, BLFG will have a part in it!"
I just noticed this. I've only ever been lynched one without any info against me and I've played 60+ games and replaced back into said games as well so I probably have had around 100 lives.
jelly?
10-17-2013
, 11:18 PM
