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02-22-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1251

JimHalpert

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

in my eyes the worst case scenario is we enter the "ITA" period with a list of POE candidates/outed wolves/suspects and then people fire at whoever they want expecting other people to do the dirty work and none of the people we need to kill actually die. In a regular ITA period you can at least tell that a suspect isn't getting shot in real time and we can essentially force people who still have shots to fire at them. In this case outed wolves could skate by on many fewer shots than we would hope if we don't organize.

That makes sense I suppose. Idk, I guess I'm sitting here thinking there's gotta be a different way to do this than the normal way when this way has basically been designed to make itas more pro-wolf. Seems like a problem to just shrug and do things as normal and hope it works out, but I can't really figure out the way to do it differently.

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02-22-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1252

mucksandgravs

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I feel like I missed something when reading the OP's

What's different about these ITA's than past games?

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02-22-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1253

Lissa2

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

i need to think about it more but atm i don't see a reliable way to turn ITAs confidently pro-villa

sneaky sneaky mods

everyone should be ~required to disclose their targets and ideally be forced to shoot one by one in order (assuming the shots resolve in-thread as they're sent; need to reread the OP on that one), but it's obviously impossible to really regulate

actually, hmm

if the shots are resolved in the thread when they're taken, then at the very least we should be able to hold people accountable for their targets if we can maintain order and discipline in having people take shots in order and waiting for prior shots to resolve

***ATTENTION***

assuming ITAs work that way, someone read the preceding paragraph and tell me if they see any flaws in it other than the normal cat-herding difficulty (which in itself may be enough to scupper it, but at least it's worth trying)

not how they work, they all process at once

it seems insanely prowolf.

i was thinking about it yesterday and figured we should be doing something basically along the lines of what cdl suggested but split up a little more

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02-22-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1254

zdye724

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Mucks going all omgus on Xkf is not a good look imo

He should try to post more words

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02-22-2016 , 01:11 PM

#1255

Gadarene

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

they resolve simultaneously after the period ends and it doesn't appear to me that it will be revealed who shot at who.

well then

nvm

thoroughly pro-wolf ITAs in that case

(there is nothing intrinsically wrong with that. not every game feature needs to be pro-villa or even alignment-indifferent. wolves are people too. i'm sure if i was a wolf that would make me happy.)

i'll give it more thought

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02-22-2016 , 01:12 PM

#1256

mucksandgravs

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Originally Posted by zdye724

Mucks going all omgus on Xkf is not a good look imo

He should try to post more words

yawn

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02-22-2016 , 01:12 PM

#1257

Xkf

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Who would give ben something? He's going to freak out and power trip and spew aids everywhere

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02-22-2016 , 01:12 PM

#1258

JimHalpert

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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs

I feel like I missed something when reading the OP's

What's different about these ITA's than past games?

done via pm, not in thread
resolved all at once at end of session

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02-22-2016 , 01:12 PM

#1259

mucksandgravs

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I have an early villa lean on Gad

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02-22-2016 , 01:13 PM

#1260

Xkf

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Mucks I'm keeping an open mind

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02-22-2016 , 01:13 PM

#1261

mucksandgravs

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Originally Posted by Xkf

Who would give ben something? He's going to freak out and power trip and spew aids everywhere

Think about this for a second and then answer it. Then slap yourself

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02-22-2016 , 01:13 PM

#1262

zdye724

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If gad is a wolf and just typed 300 words on ITAs knowing that he's wrong he's truly a sociopath

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1263

Ace of Spaids

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

not if stuff gets resolved in the thread as it happens, right?

like, let's say we're somehow able to impose order and discipline such that people have to wait for the previous shot to resolve before taking their own shot, and we have an order in which shots will be taken

player A: I will be shooting player x
<nobody else shoots before resolution>
mod: player y is dead!

in that scenario, either a wolf took a shot at the same time as player A (which admittedly puts some noise into the system, but which would presumably be made clear later on if "Miss" is also announced in the thread) or else player A lied about who they were shooting

obv this is all contingent on results being announced with each shot, so i should prob read the OP first before blathering on about this more

I thought about this too when I read the OP, and I think that the mods intentionally made ITA shots private so that we'd have to read each other's posts and you know play WW instead of being able to point to direct actions, even something like, "I'm going to shoot X, agree? BAM! X IS DEAD!"

instead we have to read everyone and play WW just to tell if someone is telling the truth

and we get an interesting conundrum if someone dies and more than one person claims teh shot

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1264

mucksandgravs

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Originally Posted by Xkf

Mucks I'm keeping an open mind

Idgaf what you're doing. Just continue being wolfy if you're a wolf and wake the **** up if you're a villager.

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1265

JimHalpert

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i gotta split for a little bit, will ponder this some more

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1266

BenjaminAO

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So I didn't use it, I feel like Zdye is right, I doubt that **** is in anyway villagery.

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1267

CalledDownLight

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we basically need to consolidate and use ITAs as an opportunity to get multiple lynches through at some %. I doubt we end up with like 8 good candidates so we should just focus on the 2-5 good ones we have tomorrow.

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02-22-2016 , 01:14 PM

#1268

zdye724

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Originally Posted by Xkf

Who would give ben something? He's going to freak out and power trip and spew aids everywhere

Exactly

If he gets a peek from it, it should be immediately disregarded

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02-22-2016 , 01:15 PM

#1269

mucksandgravs

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Originally Posted by zdye724

If gad is a wolf and just typed 300 words on ITAs knowing that he's wrong he's truly a sociopath

Mind meld

It's why I was giving him an early villa lean

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02-22-2016 , 01:15 PM

#1270

Gadarene

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things to do:

1) find the Apoc post that i thought was wolfy (for Lissa)

2) catch up

3) keep up

4) do work irl

5) maybe at some point aggregate my reads

6) leave elite power role cover because wolves are gullible and seriously tend to believe anything that's claimed itt (still mad at Ace and Apoc for fooling me DESPITE my awareness of this last game)

7) other stuff?

8) probably other stuff

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02-22-2016 , 01:15 PM

#1271

Shoving

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Originally Posted by fmxda

we are giving village points to people who actually read and catch up

No worries, I do. Just takes time, been here since SOD and have some IRL stuff going, but I'll do my job.

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02-22-2016 , 01:15 PM

#1272

benneh

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Reasonably confident on these players as villagers
BenjaminAO
KruZe
xkf
No Lynches
younguns
zdye
LKJ

Slight V but kinda goes back and forth
TheNothing
mucksandgravs
fmxda

struggling to get a read on these players despite having noticed their posts
JimHalpert
Effen

wolfy
LordJvK
Mor_Tilt4mePls
xander biscuits
ApocPS

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02-22-2016 , 01:15 PM

#1273

Gadarene

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zdye724

If gad is a wolf and just typed 300 words on ITAs knowing that he's wrong he's truly a sociopath

it's in my range

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02-22-2016 , 01:16 PM

#1274

benneh

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i left a few people off my reads list despite having reads on them for #strategery reasons

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02-22-2016 , 01:16 PM

#1275

Lissa2

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

yeah pretty much

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