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01-17-2013 , 10:44 AM
so you think his 'fair' wolf game in google translate was actually kinda obvious?

I'm not being sarcastic, honest question.

I remember his wolf game in PiratesMash or whatever it was and one more recently, maybe it was Google Translate. But yeah, I agree if he's a villager he will probably become obvious sooner rather than later, which means my vote is probably pretty good given I likely won't be around for EOD
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01-17-2013 , 10:45 AM
Page 1-2 reads (post 1 to 118) (51% rand)

fwiw, i will NOT post my matrix of interactions for obv reasons, but I will use/quote it for analysis purposes. its quite empty now.

Anarchist: nada
captain binkles: no idea why he has 6 villagers from various degrees of fluffy posts and his vote on me. He is not talking about hoya.
chrja: more or less nada
confirmedtroll: that would be me. people are answering to my requests and interacting with me. noone looks forced.
CPHoya: 2 fluffs-1 interesting post, but why stop posting just after it?
hardcoreUFO: he defends me early on. from previous experience, i dont like it. as others pointed out in [ongoing], we have to see if his reasons make sense or not.
McAvoy: mcavoying which is pretty annoying since wolves can use this fact to mislynch him/not give reads on him if hes a villa.
TimeLady: i do not like the entrance. i however don't think she does that as w/v with UD since UD is someone who will fight back anyone pushing him. He's, in some sense, not a target a wolf would attack in his-her first post. Could be w/w, there is some "forcedness" in their interaction
Toganim: some general comments, and staying in the background. sounds analytic so far.
UncleDynamite: insists that im the one who knows him best and should do a read on him. is he trying to instrumentalize me? First posts seem purposedly "ud'y". is he trying to mimic his other games, or is it really how he always plays.
VillaPredator: nada
WALLE: seems forced. might be language related but I dont like the justificative tone early on, combined with the smiley and other small things
XXXsmurfXXX: free flowing and somewhat game-solvey posts already.
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01-17-2013 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
what? three people in the game, there is no flow.
Just looking at the timestamps and such, you didn't even try to interact with Hoya at all. Just answered his question and peaced out for a while and then posted again a little later saying you were going to bed or whatever.
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01-17-2013 , 10:47 AM
them some odd reads bro
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01-17-2013 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
so you think his 'fair' wolf game in google translate was actually kinda obvious?

I'm not being sarcastic, honest question.

I remember his wolf game in PiratesMash or whatever it was and one more recently, maybe it was Google Translate. But yeah, I agree if he's a villager he will probably become obvious sooner rather than later, which means my vote is probably pretty good given I likely won't be around for EOD
hmmm he'll become obvious to me, but IDK if he'll become obvious in the lineup.

google translate was a game I died thinking he was a villager and didn't get cliffs and was pretty surprised when he was lynched and angry at the villagers until he flipped wolf. heh. so that surprised me a lot although I think the translating thing made it near impossible to read him correctly there.
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01-17-2013 , 10:49 AM
I gotta coach some dudes. I haven't read everything yet. bbl
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01-17-2013 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
so you think his 'fair' wolf game in google translate was actually kinda obvious?

I'm not being sarcastic, honest question.

I remember his wolf game in PiratesMash or whatever it was and one more recently, maybe it was Google Translate. But yeah, I agree if he's a villager he will probably become obvious sooner rather than later, which means my vote is probably pretty good given I likely won't be around for EOD
previous wolfing

piratesmash: UTR wolf//terrible
xfiles: UTRish/blending wolf, shadowed by Jim/UFO. not villagery and mediocre.
google translate: bussed since post 1, cause other wolf appeared legit wolfy to me (Dwetzel). made us win the game, combined with Dwetzel stellar performance.
turbo: i think i was good in the turbo with zdye.

previous villaging:

-the rest except the neutralling with Binkles in EyeOftheWorld for which the next comment applies anyway:

-lots of WIM, lots of bad reads
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01-17-2013 , 10:53 AM
I suggest noone clear villapred lightly. He plays a good wolfgame.
Walle should be rather transparent since hr didnt wolf before but i am afraid that he will Sound wolfish due to language.
Smurf playing a decent game. He's a bette villager Then a wolf. Id say his biggest leak as a wolf is interactions with people so we should put pressure ón him to see his rolle.
Only skimmed rest
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01-17-2013 , 10:54 AM
Eye of the World was a lot of fun

Yeah, I remember x-files too.

Hardcore I don't really get how you can say you totally misread CT in his last wolf game but think he'll become obvious to you here unless you did a lot of work learning how to read him in the interim.

It shouldn't matter if he becomes obvious 'in the lineup' if you're a villager because you can just yell and scream and force the lynch elsewhere if he becomes an obvious villager.

CT I hope you become more aggressive as the day wears on, you show more self-belief, and you get a read on VillaPred that isn't 'nada', given he's already tried to direct the flow of the thread twice I'd think there'd be something worth commenting on there
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01-17-2013 , 10:55 AM
Thanks Toganim

I think this game should become a lot easier to digest once chrja/mac/anarchist get to posting more, and it's going to be difficult until they do imo
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01-17-2013 , 10:56 AM
CT

You actually confirmed on page 1 that you were the one who knew my game the best.
I am the most talkative player so fa, and without fluffing.
So you understand I find it strange that you didn't have any kind of read to provide early on.

Strumentalizing you? Please elaborate. I was not fishing for a villa read from you and you know it.
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01-17-2013 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
CT

You actually confirmed on page 1 that you were the one who knew my game the best.
I am the most talkative player so fa, and without fluffing.
So you understand I find it strange that you didn't have any kind of read to provide early on.

Strumentalizing you? Please elaborate. I was not fishing for a villa read from you and you know it.
1)youre being yourself, and you know it, and you ask me for a read on it. So far i can only say : "yeah UD youre playing the game you played twice already. you make long posts, you use a lot of words, and you snipe back at people coming at you." thats the only thing I can say so far, excepting how other people try to interact with you.

2)therefore i dont see why you are trying to force me to read you. I dont actually see in which role it would be beneficial for you. it only shows a certain confidence in yourself, which is something you talked about previously iirc
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01-17-2013 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Eye of the World was a lot of fun

Yeah, I remember x-files too.

Hardcore I don't really get how you can say you totally misread CT in his last wolf game but think he'll become obvious to you here unless you did a lot of work learning how to read him in the interim.

It shouldn't matter if he becomes obvious 'in the lineup' if you're a villager because you can just yell and scream and force the lynch elsewhere if he becomes an obvious villager.

CT I hope you become more aggressive as the day wears on, you show more self-belief, and you get a read on VillaPred that isn't 'nada', given he's already tried to direct the flow of the thread twice I'd think there'd be something worth commenting on there
yeah so replying to bolded before I really leave. it was the translate game so I'm not giving ct cred for fooling me. and if you remove that game, he has pretty contrastant wolf and villa games. I think he is a villager here but it's kinda soon. I don't get your vote on him fwiw.
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01-17-2013 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Eye of the World was a lot of fun

Yeah, I remember x-files too.

Hardcore I don't really get how you can say you totally misread CT in his last wolf game but think he'll become obvious to you here unless you did a lot of work learning how to read him in the interim.

It shouldn't matter if he becomes obvious 'in the lineup' if you're a villager because you can just yell and scream and force the lynch elsewhere if he becomes an obvious villager.

CT I hope you become more aggressive as the day wears on, you show more self-belief, and you get a read on VillaPred that isn't 'nada', given he's already tried to direct the flow of the thread twice I'd think there'd be something worth commenting on there
1. ill go re-read villa predator. i passed over him because WallE and Smurf have the spotlight amongst the danish crew

2. any words about hoya so far?
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01-17-2013 , 11:02 AM
basically hardcore I'm seeing no conviction in what CT is doing right now

if that changes he's probably a villager

anyway I really have to sleep now, if CT is a villager a better vote will manifest itself ldo
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01-17-2013 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
1. ill go re-read villa predator. i passed over him because WallE and Smurf have the spotlight amongst the danish crew

2. any words about hoya so far?
1. Cool =]

2. I peeked him villa, and I don't think there's all that much to say about him in any case. He's made a few posts that don't mean much and that's it.
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01-17-2013 , 11:06 AM
ok binkles Im silly I forgot your peek. dont take that as something I did not intend to do.
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01-17-2013 , 11:12 AM
@Toga
Decent my little blue smurf butt
Well - i have agree with you, and i obv want to clear myself, so fire when rdy.
I will be here untill 19.45 danish time - then im off work and i have a hour drive, so cant be here to eod

My only certain villager is confirmedtroll(peek)

My best guess for wolf are
walle

I cant wait for villa to answer why im wolf, just because we read walle different.
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01-17-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
1)youre being yourself, and you know it, and you ask me for a read on it. So far i can only say : "yeah UD youre playing the game you played twice already. you make long posts, you use a lot of words, and you snipe back at people coming at you." thats the only thing I can say so far, excepting how other people try to interact with you.
Err... what?
Of course I think I am being myself. But if people actually always were themselves, they would become undreadble and almost impossible to play agains.
I am very far from unreadable. As everyone, I involuntarily modify my game depending on my allegiance, slightly or not.
You have seen me both wolf and village, so you could catch some tendency I do not know.

No need to re-read me anymore, you gave the read I was asking for.
The "instumentalize" is pretty off-putting, though
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01-17-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
It's pretty ironic that I rand villager, given my name.

I feel like the conversation isn't far from turning into a completely theoretical one, which just makes it way too easy for the wolves to participate and seem villagery for being active.

I'm really ambivalent about Hardcores post. In my experience, villagers often rant about themselves and their gameplay. However the purpose of the post just strike me as wolfy.

Regarding CPHoya, I'm inclined to agreeing with UncleDynamite at this point, about him not being w/w with hardcore.
Basically, cause I can't see what purpose, such an akward interaction, should serve the wolves?
On the other hand, the interaction does seem pretty akward and you could argue that it means it's more likely to be w/w.

Oh well, seems I havn't made up my mind about that yet. We'll see what happens
he makes two points, and also gives their two respective opposite points.
that's a lot of world, for no substance

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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
Confirmed.
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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
You're saying that you think Hardcore's post is wolfy. And you're not sure whether CPHoya is a wolf, or a villager that has fallen for Hardcore's post.

Then why do you vote CPHoya over Hardcore?
this is an ok observation

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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
We're in dire need of a topic that isn't a type that a wolf can discuss freely.

Confirmedtroll's suggestion is fine and helpful, but roleneutral at the same time.
I'd be the one known as Alex from the danish community.

#53 is one of those insecure posts that I've seen from Smurf's wolfgame before. It could be caused by the fact he's in a new community, and he might feel outskilled.
I'm pretty sure he's out of his comfort zone at least. Anyway, I believe him to be villager at this point.

I also find UD's thought process in #35-36 villagery.
i dont feel like XSmurf is being insecure, but yeah, meta.
yet again, a point and his exact opposite

is that what you wanted me to notice binkles? I cant decide myself whether its genuine or faked indecision.

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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
Given the lineup, would you expect the wolves to avoid contact with each other?
I think this read is generally only applicable on rookie-wolves.
I'm well aware of you don't know the entire lineup, but I'd like you to answer based on the people you know.
no. Im interested in the progression of the interactions, and also if the avoidance seems unnatural or not. Like Im pretty sure its easy to distinguish between "on purpose" avoidance and the other kind.
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01-17-2013 , 11:15 AM
Sorry for the sloppy wording. Phone posting
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01-17-2013 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Err... what?
Of course I think I am being myself. But if people actually always were themselves, they would become undreadble and almost impossible to play agains.
I am very far from unreadable. As everyone, I involuntarily modify my game depending on my allegiance, slightly or not.
You have seen me both wolf and village, so you could catch some tendency I do not know.

No need to re-read me anymore, you gave the read I was asking for.
The "instumentalize" is pretty off-putting, though
i could not find a better term. I do not attribute any mischevious intention in it, just finding the forcing of my hand interesting enough to be noted.

i feel confident that ill be able to get some clarifications on your role quickly enough. at least, I hope to be the person who can clear you first, or on the other hand, the less susceptible to be fooled by you.
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01-17-2013 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by captain binkles
basically hardcore I'm seeing no conviction in what CT is doing right now

if that changes he's probably a villager

anyway I really have to sleep now, if CT is a villager a better vote will manifest itself ldo
i did not like this comment btw
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01-17-2013 , 11:21 AM
Note to self:

Please try to fokus more on not danish players
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01-17-2013 , 11:23 AM
Regarding your comment about Smurf

The blue highlight is basically just a thought, it's not me arguing that Smurf is a wolf.
When I call it insecure, it's because I mean, that Smurf is asking about something he's most likely already aware of.
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