Good for him - hopefully good for us

I dont know who villapredator or walle is, i hope they give up their identity soon - and then i'll answer.
ill answer regarding smurf later (i see he asked me to wait).
ill be in thread later
nice to know we dont have beef

Votes as of post 51
Night in 07:46
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
1	CPHoya	UncleDynamite (12)
12	not voting	captain binkles (0), chrja (1), confirmedtroll (0), Anarchist (1), CPHoya (5), hardcoreUFO (4), McAvoy (5), TimeLady (0), Toganim (11), WALLE (0), VillaPredator (3), XXXsmurfXXX (4)

I kinda agree with this.

Which leads me to the following...
Your question to Toga is either

1.
Total fluff

2.
A failed try to ask a serious question (that would give u some wolf pts in my book)

3.
A serious question that I just dont understand.......

Can u help me out ?

Hello friends

I've sorta read the thread but don't have all that much to offer right now

grunching

TINTIN! I was thinking about doing a tintin vanilla+ at some point...

ok ill read the thread now

Here is my orderd list of, from my opinion, my knowledge of the players/their tendencies in this roster

UncleDynamite
HardcoreUFO
binkles
timelady
anarchist
mcavoy
CPHoya
chrja
-----------("never played with" Line)
Toganim
VillaPredator
WALLE
XXXsmurfXXX

btw from the sign-up and reading the first few posts, it seems that the danish players seem to know each other from another forum.

Who is concerned: smurf,toganim, VP, chrja and WallE, is that it?
Could you each say a few words about what you know of each other's game?

It seems like this advantage is somewhat compensated by the fact that you dont know the players in here. However I think its necessary to have a perspective on your meta, or at least on how you perceive each other.

tack!

You're right, this thread needs a lot more Tintin



Why did you make that list of who you're familiar with?

Anyway

I will say Hardcore's post was weird, it's an odd progression: people suck at reading me -> my wolf game has become obvious to the point where I feel like I need to adjust my village meta. If you feel like you're that obvious, then people can't be that bad at reading you. Unless you feel like 5-6 people can read you very well, but POG in general can't, and it just so happened that most of those 5-6 people were in that game you got lynched d1 as a wolf.

That said, it's weird, but I don't think it's necessarily wolfy, because it's not something he should really believe in any role, and that sort of contradiction doesn't really garner him any advantage.

I think UncleD's response was wolfy and I actually considered grunching after reading his first post and voting him, but I do like how he tried to help drive discussion during a dead zone so I'm gonna leave off voting for the moment until I re-read/more people get a chance to post substantively.

1) it seems that you were lurking and jumped straight on Hoya's post without any intro to the thread etc. I dont know how this relates to your usual introduction in games. I will DB you at some point because you seem to be/use to be a regular player here.

2) this is also a bit too generic for my taste but as you did with hoya, "Im not gonna hold this against you"

for the unknown players I think binkles/hardcoreUFO are the most qualified to comment on how I play.

Data:
I only wolfed one vanilla game it was the Google Translate edition of last December. I also wolfed 2 turbos recently (gl to find them) and the X-files Vanilla+ of SGT/Duck. Im happy with my perf in Google Translate and Turbos, and ashamed of the others.
I can also comment on my villa game if necessary

I know toga, but only played a few games with him. I have talked quite a bit ww-strategy with him. I find him to be a very skilled player, who always argue well no matter role.
I have played 10'ish games with chrja and know his "style" better. We have been wolfes together 2 times i thunk - i also talked strat with him

Learned a lot from both of them.

I dont know who vp and walle are.

Hope this enough info about this.

I think we have a heterogenous list of players, with players who dont know each others, different styles, etc...

So a good prerequisite for this game is to give your level of knowledge of the players i.e. your level of confidence in your meta-related reads of them.

if that makes sense

Hi

Could you elaborate?
And if you do think I am wolfy you definitely should vote for me.
This is not must lynch and it's not like I'll stop contributing.
People who agree or disagree that I am a wolf will be tempted to react.
I am not sure they are going to react if no one starts voting their pet reads.

I know UD means it when he says this!

game thread I am here

what does "DB" mean? In " I will DB you at some point because you seem to be/use to be a regular player here."

I almost always read the thread before I write - especially when the thread is so small during intros. i dont see why I (or any1 else for that matter) should say hi etc. before they start the actual game. Lets just get right down to business

I used to be a regular here, i tend to take some breakes when i get tired

im still curious as to who the other danes are. i suggest we vote them off if they dont tell us

uncledynamite

DB= the database of games. Or maybe you could just point out some villa/wolf games of yours which you think might be relevant.

There are a few things that initially bothered me with this post Uncle:

Firstly you don't really conclude or derive anything from it. You speak very definitively about what people would/wouldn't do, but the only thing it leads to is that you think Hardcore has extreme confidence.

You then go on to say that comparing metagame is normally done under pressure, which is probably true, but I'm really not sure how you jump from that to "this is probably not w/w". And I'm not sure why it matters in terms of the rest of your post. Like, you say that most people only talk about metagame under pressure, and then say that those who talk about it while not under pressure have a lot of confidence, and then conclude that this isn't w/w.

But I don't see why? Like, what part of that exchange actually makes you think it's not w/w from the rest of your post? You explained later that Hoya may be a wolf calling a villager a villager in Hardcore for credit, but it's not a thought process you actively showed in the post above, despite you coming to that conclusion.

I think it's a fairly basic and generic wolf tell for wolves to speak definitively about things like metagame (because you can tell the truth about them) and also to make, or discount random links between players, because, again, it's easier to tell the truth about them or to twist things in a fairly convincing way.

Which is basically why I found that wolfy.

There are also some things in there like your tone and your approach to making reads where I think there are some differences between this and what I know of your village game, however I don't want to elaborate on that just yet so I can get a better sample size.

And I'm not voting you, because like I said, I do like that you're driving discussion somewhat early on, which is generally something villagers like to do more than wolves.

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And just a heads up for those who missed the signup thread, EOD is at 6.30AM my time, there is a very low chance I'll be around for any of them

http://www.checkmywwstats.com/

database

Hi, TL.
A reason would be nice.

toganim is a very good wolf. he's a good villager too, but a verrrry good wolf

bastards tricked me on more than one occasion. ****ing danes

TL you have no idea how sad I'll be if you're a wolf this game

binkles I dont like it that youre going to be away at EODs, regardless of your role

if wolf: "come on guys, let's not lynch/CFD binkles he's not here to defend self"

if villa: well, youre good and you might be needed

The 2 other danes could actually be lider and lasval according to the mishmash thread, toga.
But im obv not sure.

You would know if it was alex right ?

I think that, in a majority of cases, wolves are more likely to say things like "oh, you can vote me, that's ok", because they don't want to appear too wolfy by freaking out at getting votes/pressure too early.

It's very hard to react to getting pressure super early as a wolf. And I think you reacted wolfily.

I say this as someone who allllways does this as a wolf, regardless of how self aware I am