villaging it up

toganim
smurf
walle
chrja
binkels

ufo
uncledynamite

i doubt that ufo and uncle are w/w since I find it highly unlikely that uncle should take that big a stand on the ufo/hoya issue

lol dissapering @ 174. I play when i have time

I find the bolded part very villagery.

Wolves usually wants to get credit when they are actually doing work - and it would have been a nice way of hiding behind a graph that is quite easy to make as a wolf.

no, its me wanting to know who they were- and one of them said in the sign up thread that it was for him to know and me to find out

@chrja
Agree, but tbh not that unusual for him

unvote
Even though he might be wolf, me voting him is the easy'est solution ever seen. This is
d1 and im confused as always

Im reading everything again the next hour

HA I caught you lurking

This is wolfy.

It reals of TMI, like he knows what CT is, trying to act non-shalant.

I lurk alot so dont be too proud

Toga, where to you stand regarding TL?

Votes as of post 183
Night in 03:00
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
1	confirmedtroll	captain binkles (25)
1	Toganim	McAvoy (11)
1	UncleDynamite	TimeLady (14)
1	XXXsmurfXXX	VillaPredator (8)
2	unvote	UncleDynamite (29), XXXsmurfXXX (16)
7	not voting	chrja (9), confirmedtroll (23), Anarchist (1), CPHoya (5), hardcoreUFO (11), Toganim (17), WALLE (5)

I agree
With this, when binkles is a
Villager,
He is super game solvey, when he is a wolf, he
Just posts words for a lack of better explanation.

Im back...

Sorry for the "meh" chrja, I care more about the danes in this lineup atm because I find it very hard to point my attention to others here on D1.
I think it is very overwhelming to play at a second language and my natural instincts tells me to try reading the people I've been playing with before and try to see if I can spot something.

And that's why you were included in my "reads". I just haven't seen you made such intro before. You are more likely to make an "Toga" intro - right down to business intro imo.
That's why I found it a bit odd.

Also, imo are you more likely to have wolfleans on a bunch of people than villalean if randed wolf. You knows that it is crucial not having a lot of villalean in the beginning because it's far more difficult to play wolf later on. You mentioned that in your last game.

I remembered the last game where you were wolf, you pretty much tunneled the people who was in for a mislynch and didn't mention anyone else basically. I can't say you are doing that in this game but still.
Conclusion: wolflean.

@smurf
I dont really understand the logic in why I should be a wolf due to my "gimmick" stunt.
You are basically trying to do the same? Saying that if people are reading you wolfish thats not a big deal cause you might play different as you see this "first game" opportunity to play different?
The fact that you are voting me, makes you more likely villager. You are far more paranoid as villager than wolf.
Conclusion: villaish.

Another thing I found interesting is Toga's #155.
If Toga is a wolf he would have no interest in highlighting this since the result of it is that he is likely villager. Can't see the point of that besides it's a fps.
Conclusion: villaish.

Villapred is villager.

I will try focusing on the rest now.

I don't like any of the other people with votes, toga is neutral and the other two are Villagery people, so I'm gonna leave my vote where it is. I might be able to post from the airport, but it's not guaranteed.

This post is just my thoughts while i read the thread again:

toga/uncle not w/w

villas:
ct
chrja - as i know him
cph - tone
cb - tone

wolf leans:
toga - more agressiv as villa (as i remember)(tone)
walle (alrdy explained)
uncledynamite - something i cant explain now, call it gutts

vp - normal weird opening. Voting me for the "its a smart, not srs vote - i dont get it)
villalean though


@captain binkles
U said u read some of toga's old wolf games - and in this game he was diff.
Can u elab this ?

Heh.
This was actually the second time I tried to explain why a vote on me is bad.

People, look at this sequence.
1) Timelady enters the thead. Votes me. I ask why, she explain.
After I explain her vote is bad (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=90) she INSTA disappears.
2) I call her out on it after a while. She INSTA reappears and repeats why she voted on me, blatantly disregarding my last response to her.
3) I repeat why voting for me is bad (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=173)
SHE SNAP disappears again.

She reappears later. Says she is traveling. If she knew she was going to trave, why did she ask me a link to my wolf game? She would not have had the time to re-read it.

We have the wolf.

Vote: TimeLady

TimeLady

I am here for about an hour more, then i have to go so i won't be around at EOD.

Votes as of post 190
Night in 02:00
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	TimeLady	chrja (10), UncleDynamite (30)
2	UncleDynamite	TimeLady (15), XXXsmurfXXX (17)
1	confirmedtroll	captain binkles (25)
1	Toganim	McAvoy (12)
1	XXXsmurfXXX	VillaPredator (8)
6	not voting	confirmedtroll (23), Anarchist (1), CPHoya (5), hardcoreUFO (11), Toganim (17), WALLE (6)

chrja
explain to me once more why TL is better vote than UD please..

I mean not just the two posts, but more what you feel about UD.

I don't really have any opinion on UD, but i got time to reread him so give me a some time.

Regarding TL its not just those two post, i also find her to pleasing compared to how i remember her.

Like the way she gives me a villa read based on my read on her, I don't really get why she finds it villagery.

I will be here starting around 40 minutes before EOD.

Smurf,

Have you not read my post?
It is fine to have a gut read, but looking at the evidence is also good.
I repeat:

-binkles gets slightly suspicious on me, but does not vote me.
-I tell him to vote me if he finds me suspicious.
-He does not, but TL enters thread and does.
-When I ask her to explain, she says that inviting people to vote for self is a common wolf tell.
-I bring counterxamples!
-She never answers me.
-I wait for a while and call her out
-She appears and repeats that inviting to vote for self is a common wolf tell. Asks me link for a wolf game of mine.
-I give her link, bring counterxamples again.
-She goes away again.
-Finally, she reappears and says she's heading for the airport and likes where her vote is placed.

If you are not convinced by her deafness to my arguments and her timing tells, riddle me this:
Why does she asks me for a wolf game of mine if she knows she has to travel?

Sometimes gut reads can be bad

Leaving work in 50 mins - so chrja, i would appriciate if u read ud

Seems like i cant sponge troll - so i might sponge you

I like this case a lot because it shows a lot of villagery thought process. I also have TL as a wolf and will expand on it later (not necessarily for the reasons UD pointed out, though).

I think binkles is fairly likely to be a wolf here but we should probably leave him be for this gameday since he can get to clear people other villagers can't clear and catch wolves other villagers can't catch as a villager, which makes him a fairly bad d1 lynch.

I'm fine with lynching TL, though. and wow night in two hours.

timelady

my gut says wolfteam is cphoya/binkles/timelady

dunno if i should drop my peek or not

UD - I did read your post, and if you read mine I state that Im willing to change vote.

My xp tells me that there isnt much "true" evidence on d1 - atleast dont think i ever put a vote on a locked wolf d1.
Honestly, have you ?

Re reading UD he is a bad vote.

I find him pretty villagery, I can pretty much follow his logic in all of his posts, and his posts seems free flowing. I don't necessarily agree with all of his reasonings but i can get why he feels the way he does.

Neither have I, but this is my 4th game on POG and the 9th overall.
I do not have a lot of experience.
Generally speaking, there are NO lock wolves on vanillas on d1.

My evidence is not 100%, but it's pretty damning.