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06-23-2008 , 06:58 PM
[3] Dustin voted for dustin
[0] Clown
[2] Nich voted for Dustin
[0] Ollie
[0] Swiitch
[5] Hitch voted for Nich
[0] DMK voted for Nich
[0] Epi voted for hitch
[0] Vaya voted for Hitch
[0] Sun Tzu voted for Hitch
[0] Ackbleh voted for hitch
[0] Bucky voted for Dustin
[0] Fmxda voted for hitch
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06-23-2008 , 06:58 PM
what the ****?
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06-23-2008 , 06:58 PM
ok, we'll lets pray that i was right originally

hitch is pretty crafy so maybe
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06-23-2008 , 06:58 PM
:00 good, :01 not.
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06-23-2008 , 06:59 PM
stop being ******ed
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06-23-2008 , 06:59 PM
yeah, I know

vote me epi

I am a villager but its better to do it today than probably tomorrow
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06-23-2008 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fmxda
stop being ******ed
i know, I unclaimed too close to night but w/e

I dont like getting lynched for no reason especially when i think i have a wolf read
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06-23-2008 , 07:00 PM
im gonna stay with hitch and hope you were right the first time.
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06-23-2008 , 07:02 PM
NIGHT!!!!!!!
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06-23-2008 , 07:02 PM
[3] Dustin voted for dustin
[0] Clown
[2] Nich voted for Dustin
[0] Ollie
[0] Swiitch
[5] Hitch voted for Nich
[0] DMK voted for Nich
[0] Epi voted for hitch
[0] Vaya voted for Hitch
[0] Sun Tzu voted for Hitch
[0] Ackbleh voted for hitch
[0] Bucky voted for Dustin
[0] Fmxda voted for hitch

5 min for recounting, etc.
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06-23-2008 , 07:09 PM
Hitch was strung up and lynched.

Hitch is NOT a villager sheep.

Wolves, send me your NK. Sheepdog seer, send me your peek.

EDIT. HITCH IS NOT A SHEEP. HE IS A WOLF. I am such a good MOD IMO. Wow, I'm so out of it.

REPEAT. HITCH = WOLF, NOT VILLAGER.
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06-23-2008 , 07:15 PM


Yes, that is what Hitch is. See above.
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06-23-2008 , 07:17 PM
Day in 8 hours, 3 PM EST.
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06-24-2008 , 02:45 AM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Hitch is still a WOLF.

Soah is replacing Swiitch.

Dustin died, he was definitely a villager sheep.

Night at 7 PM EST.

Don't do anything too stupid.

IT IS DAY.
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06-24-2008 , 02:48 AM
I'm going to refrain from making any lame puns about swiitching places with some other player and then I'm going to read the thread.

So far my initial reads are hitch=wolf and dustin=villager.
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06-24-2008 , 03:07 AM
****dead*****

lol wolves

gl
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06-24-2008 , 03:33 AM
ok, I had some thoughts ready, but then I got to the end and forgot them all, because that was somewhat hilarious

but in reading the thread I did confirm lastchance's reads on dustin and hitch.

also, hitch spewed enough to win us this game I think

I randomly selected some things to quote as I went along which will follow shortly.
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06-24-2008 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Swiitch
I will be back on before night I think:

Dustin – slight village read
Clown – no read yet
Nich – no read yet
Ollie – no read yet, Ack is correct that this is his wolf game, but I am not sold.
Hitch – village read
DMK – no read yet – I thought I might have a decent read on him after the last few games, so this may change
Epi – slight village read
Vaya – village read, I agree with Ackbleh that the Sun Tzu research is villagery
Sun Tzu – no read yet
Ackbleh – no read yet
Bucky – no read yet
Fmxda – no read yet, I need to go back and look at some of his games.
I fortunately remembered that swiitch is me before commenting on this post. So now that I know it's me, I'll just say that I'm obviously a villager. swiitch is in that stage of his ww development where he knows that coming out and calling wolves villagers gets people lynched, but he hasn't developed the necessary metagame and confidence to try to do it as a level 3 wolf play. and hitch sorta stands out here being the strongest of his very few reads.

hmm, the way I worded this post makes it sound like I changed my mind on what I was going to post upon learning swiitch is me, which is lol-wolfy, but what actually happened was I was just quoting it originally to say "lol" and I hadn't even noticed that hitch was one of the only people he'd commented on. I'm going to leave the wolfiness of my post intact so that you can all see my stream of consciousness.

hell, this post is a disaster now because now it looks like I'm recycling the exact same meta-crap I said two games back as a villager.

So yeah, I'm gonna just gonna end this post now.

cliff's notes: swiitch = villager, swiitch = me, me = villager, transitive property ftw
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06-24-2008 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
Up to 100






If Dustin is a wolf, vaya is 100% clear, and if Vaya is a wolf then Dustin is 100% clear.

<snip>
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
You haven't posted much there at all, so it is a strange excuse.

Also, do you know what 100% means?

If you are a wolf, do you make this post with Dustin as a wolf/village, please give me %'s.
this selection was also quoted primarily for the lol factor

although this is also some excellent spew. the hostility directed towards nich (amongst other minor details like voting him all day) means nich = villager

the vaya remark is amongst my list of things he said that I haven't assigned any weight to atm fwiw
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06-24-2008 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
And why is dmk voting for epi?
pure spew

dmk=villager
epi=villager

stronger for epi than for dmk

I'll elaborate if someone wants me too but my elaboration could end up really long and I don't feel like it atm. but suffice it to say that wolves want villagers to be going after each other.
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06-24-2008 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ackbleh
Dustin -- mildly wolfy. Doesn't make placeholder votes? Hello, Dustin. Meet soah! Wolfy for other reasons as well.
followed by pushing dustin all day

I find this wolfy. There are allegedly other reasons for dustin being wolfy, yet the one given here is beyond flimsy. First of all, off the top of my head I think dustin is probably correct about his lack of random votes at the start of games. But even if he's not, in the context of this game, it's just not something that makes any sense for a wolf to be lying about.

dustin votes vaya. vaya refers to it as a placeholder vote. dustin says no, it was a real vote, he doesn't make a placeholder vote. Now you see, the thing here is that if dustin is a wolf, and if dustin normally does make placeholder votes........ then he can still say "no that wasn't a placeholder vote." The comment about previous games was entirely irrelevant to what he said.

ackbleh using this as a justification to go after dustin strikes me as what a wolf does -- he's looking to build cases, not looking to find the truth. It sounds good at first glance: find someone who is inconsistent/lying/etc and call them out on it. But in this case it holds no water, and I think that should be pretty apparent to anyone who spends a couple seconds thinking about it.
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06-24-2008 , 04:08 AM
I meant to preview but accidentally submitted

"dustin says no, it was a real vote, he doesn't make a placeholder vote."

should read:

"dustin says no, it was a real vote, he doesn't make placeholders votes."
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06-24-2008 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
That is a pretty awesome post epi.
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
fmxda/nich/dustin wagons? If you could pick two, which two would you pick?
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Originally Posted by The_Hitch
^^That was adressed at epi, but it is open to all.
more epi=villager spew btw
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06-24-2008 , 04:29 AM
Sorry for not being around yesterday. Somehow I missed that this has started.
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06-24-2008 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ackbleh
normally wouldn't want to immediately lynch the claim, but dustin didn't really n eed to fake claim here as a wolf, he coudl have switched his vote to nich and nich would have been lead wagon.

if hitch comes up village we obv lynch dustin tomorrow.
I don't know if I can really explain it but ackbleh's reaction to dustin claiming seer just doesn't seem right. He's been trying to rally up everyone to vote dustin without ever actually making a case against him and then he doesn't really even seem bothered when dustin claims seer... just votes for hitch and then comes back with this post.

I would expect that a villager who feels as strongly about dustin as ackbleh appeared to would first try to figure out a reason for dustin to still be a wolf when he claims. Not necessarily complete blinders or anything, but at least along the lines of "hmmmmm I don't really buy this" and at least wouldn't be the first guy to vote hitch. The standard play if you're unsure of dustin's role in this spot would be to lynch a third party... but ackbleh doesn't mention that at all.

So maybe he's convinced dustin is seer now... but then why does he include the last line of this post? Something doesn't add up.
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