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03-12-2014 , 04:00 PM
So Im prolly gonna start hard-defending thediceman cause I dont really think hes a wolf here.
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03-12-2014 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
Nice to see ya ship!
Yeah you too man, feels like we haven't played together in forever.
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03-12-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
diceman did nothing but call bhuber's long post wolfy, and liked jim's posts

thats awkward
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
wang do you think anyone has been wolfy so far

(minus your read on diceman's fluff)
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alright well i need to go running

chips needs more pressure when he gets back

same with diceman
Multiple mentions of me and you are pushing the lack of content angle.

Why not point it out once and move on?

AGAIN I ask, do you REALLY think me and Chips need pressure to post?

Really struggle with that part.
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03-12-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
I find this post wolfy lol
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Yep, that's what I didn't like.
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Awesome
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Knowing that makes me feel better about it.
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Liking everything you have said so far, especially this post.

A lot of people would have made up some reads for the sake of it.
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Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. But there is a good chance he believes it and I am taking that into account.
your intro

like i said, role neutral at best

but i also found it weird that you thought bhuber's long post was wolfy and jim's long posts to be villagery
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03-12-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
Okay, full disclosure I completely skipped over Jim's giant posts earlier and had no idea they were about me or I would have responded then. With that being said while I appreciate the kind words it kind of feels like he's setting me up. Wang made a post some of my general thoughts on it so not gonna throw a wall of text giving my exact thoughts but what I will add is that him making this post about me in particular makes sense as a wolf set up. I very rarely get mislynched and I'm not in spk territory so from his pov there's a very good chance I'm here for end game. I'm not sure if Jim is the kind of wolf to think that far ahead but if he is I feel like he makes this type of post a lot. Especially considering he could justify it by saying he did the same thing last game.
I think the important thing for us to hammer out and get a good idea on each other is if you think it makes sense for me to feel that way about your game.
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03-12-2014 , 04:01 PM
Ok let's try and read some.
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03-12-2014 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
I think Hoya is a villager at this point. I've found wolf Hoya loves to get bogged down in the minor details (such as wording), mostly in an effort to have something to get in long interactive discussions that appear villagery but allow him to avoid looking at big picture things (I try to do this too once I realized it). He still looks for those types of things as a villager, but I really feel that his hesitation on pulling the trigger on it with bhubs here is a product of a villager approach and not a wolf one.
Jim, I have this exact same read for hoya, and that is why I think he is a wolf here.
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03-12-2014 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thediceman

AGAIN I ask, do you REALLY think me and Chips need pressure to post?
yes, i still want pressure on chips when he gets back and ive explained why

he had two posts, his last of which being a question to quarr about reads, quarr responded and chips left with no response or acknowledgement
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03-12-2014 , 04:03 PM
couple of early lazily pulled dice quotes from 13er states of the union game:

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Originally Posted by thediceman
Think I like Huber here, this in turn makes me like Hoya and dislike Redd
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Really hate jays posts today but if he not coming back it can wait until tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Lol Redd
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Show work on why you are a villager instead.
compare them to page 1 quotes from this game:

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Originally Posted by thediceman
I find this post wolfy lol
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Yep, that's what I didn't like.
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Knowing that makes me feel better about it.
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Liking everything you have said so far, especially this post.

A lot of people would have made up some reads for the sake of it.
from having read this i'd say they're extremely similar

a lot of "this is good" "this is bad" "i like this" "don't like this" even found a similar "lol" post in the previous game

and when rereading here dice's page 1 didn't even strike me as wolfy as it did this morning, it might have been the lack of intro post and immediately quoting bhuber and talking about it

but yeah i think his posting here lines up with his posting in the last one, so until more pops up i think he's a villager
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03-12-2014 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
you havent once mentioned quarr's vote on you

and he didnt even give reasoning for voting you

and you think im a wolf because i said you need pressure

youre out of your mind this game
Why are you worried about his vote?

It is my job to try and figure out who is a wolf and who is not.

Quarr doing that there does not make him a wolf. He could and would do that as a villager.

Even Xkf voting me after that is fine.

You pushing and not voting though I find very wolfy.
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03-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
dice, im over your intro stuff now

its your progression and follow once you came back that makes me think youre wolfing

you reasoning to vote me made no sense, and youre overall aggression is really off character imo
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03-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
I think the important thing for us to hammer out and get a good idea on each other is if you think it makes sense for me to feel that way about your game.
I'm kind of surprised you'd say it because I really haven't had like, any success at all as a wolf in long games. But if you do really feel that way I appreciate it, been trying to shed the "lol siu slanking wolf who always subs out" thing for awhile. Just the way you put it made it seem like you may be trying to cast some doubt on me for later.
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03-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHalpert
xkf, you have a post (i think it was you anyways) about my organizational thing being like, unnecessary. I agree it should, but the games I've railed have had very little doing it (including the one I played and died in) despite there being important things they could have seen had they done it (quarrr's peek, the dwetzel stuff). It was more just a "look bros, these things have been forgotten, lets not forget them here".
it was basically contentless

it has nothing to do with the current game and it's not an original or groundbreaking new theory

it's really just a "rah-rah let's go village!" post
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03-12-2014 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
yes, i still want pressure on chips when he gets back and ive explained why

he had two posts, his last of which being a question to quarr about reads, quarr responded and chips left with no response or acknowledgement
Either you do not get the point or are avoiding it.

Chips came in made 1 or 2 posts (?) and said he had to go.

WHY does he need pressure based on that?

Unless you are trying to imply that he is scared to post.

Good luck pushing that angle.

I was here early, nothing happened and I left.

Are you trying to imply that unless you did not mention it a few times I would just never come back and provide content?

Come on that is just bad.
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03-12-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
Jim, I have this exact same read for hoya, and that is why I think he is a wolf here.
Well, the thing is I think he does similar as a villager. I think the major difference is he brings the minor detail to the forefront of the discussion enabling him to avoid the larger points of what's happening as a wolf. I'm thinking his bringing it up and then restraining himself from actually making it a larger thing is villagery for him?
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03-12-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thediceman
Why are you worried about his vote?

It is my job to try and figure out who is a wolf and who is not.

Quarr doing that there does not make him a wolf. He could and would do that as a villager.

Even Xkf voting me after that is fine.

You pushing and not voting though I find very wolfy.
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03-12-2014 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
it was basically contentless

it has nothing to do with the current game and it's not an original or groundbreaking new theory

it's really just a "rah-rah let's go village!" post
Well, yeah! I even said it wasn't groundbreaking or anything and was just something to make people remember to do it since they haven't been
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03-12-2014 , 04:08 PM
It was also like 3am and I was delirious, so yeah. #noregrets
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03-12-2014 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
dice, im over your intro stuff now

its your progression and follow once you came back that makes me think youre wolfing

you reasoning to vote me made no sense, and youre overall aggression is really off character imo
read my post

i see a similar aggressive/sorta sarcastic tone from the intro of the previous game
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03-12-2014 , 04:09 PM
dice i dont want to spend the whole day us just tunneling each other and ignoring everyone else, we've made our arguments so lets just drop it here
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03-12-2014 , 04:09 PM
I remember one of my tells on Jim being that he tried to be overly helpful as a wolf. The only problem with that is it was a game from several months ago (Not sure if you remember Jim but it was the game Misti Blue peeked you). Does anyone know if that tell still has any merit now or if Jim just tries to be really helpful in both roles? Wondering because post #73 is giving me the overly helpful vibe.
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03-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
I'm kind of surprised you'd say it because I really haven't had like, any success at all as a wolf in long games. But if you do really feel that way I appreciate it, been trying to shed the "lol siu slanking wolf who always subs out" thing for awhile. Just the way you put it made it seem like you may be trying to cast some doubt on me for later.
I can get behind that line of thinking. Kinda like the thought process and minor paranoia (maybe a bad word, just woke up, w/e).
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03-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Pine
your intro

like i said, role neutral at best

but i also found it weird that you thought bhuber's long post was wolfy and jim's long posts to be villagery
Right there I said I feel better about hubers post knowing it was his 10K

Never said Jims posts were villagery, just said I liked them.
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03-12-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
Okay, full disclosure I completely skipped over Jim's giant posts earlier and had no idea they were about me or I would have responded then. With that being said while I appreciate the kind words it kind of feels like he's setting me up. Wang made a post some of my general thoughts on it so not gonna throw a wall of text giving my exact thoughts but what I will add is that him making this post about me in particular makes sense as a wolf set up. I very rarely get mislynched and I'm not in spk territory so from his pov there's a very good chance I'm here for end game. I'm not sure if Jim is the kind of wolf to think that far ahead but if he is I feel like he makes this type of post a lot. Especially considering he could justify it by saying he did the same thing last game.
this pings me as well

the post series presented a bunch of theory but stuck in the middle of it is a very explicitly game-specific "hey watch out for SIU btw"
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03-12-2014 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
I remember one of my tells on Jim being that he tried to be overly helpful as a wolf. The only problem with that is it was a game from several months ago (Not sure if you remember Jim but it was the game Misti Blue peeked you). Does anyone know if that tell still has any merit now or if Jim just tries to be really helpful in both roles? Wondering because post #73 is giving me the overly helpful vibe.
How can I forget that game. I held together a wolf team that slanked their first 2.5 days away somehow getting a few mislynches, was almost on track for a 3rd, and then collapsed due to being "seered wolf". I think it was one of my better played ones overall
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