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12-21-2015 , 07:33 PM

#51

ihcjay

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Lol autocorrect

If your shot goes through there is still the possibility of your angel saving someone.

It's not an either or type of NA

12-21-2015 , 07:34 PM

#52

FranFran

Fran and stuff

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 20,451

thanks for ignoring jay

12-21-2015 , 07:39 PM

#53

ihcjay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FranFran

thanks for ignoring jay

Thanks for reading OP

12-21-2015 , 07:42 PM

#54

FranFran

Fran and stuff

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 20,451

ohh, time zones, sorry, I thought it's yesterday's OP saying it starts tonight which confused me. never mind

12-21-2015 , 07:43 PM

#55

ihcjay

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Thread will open tonight at 10pm ish

Night is tomorrow at 7pm

Thread will reopen at 9pm tomorrow but NAs will not be processed until 9am on Wed. It's basically a monkey rules game.

Everyone gets a shot and a save but you have to assign how effective each one is.

Angels saves against nk and shots.

Two people can angel the same person. Nothing extra happens though.

12-21-2015 , 07:44 PM

#56

FranFran

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10pm server time is like 4-5AM for me, so not in, but like the game, next time .. glgl

12-21-2015 , 07:44 PM

#57

ihcjay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FranFran

10pm server time is like 4-5AM for me, so not in, but like the game, next time .. glgl

Thread will be open for 21 hrs tomorrow

Lynch is at 7pm EST

12-21-2015 , 07:48 PM

#58

TehBankertin

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,033

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace of Spaids

How do you decide which actions affect the others?

Say I give my good friend Tom an 80% angel

Fran gives Tom an 50% angel

Lord shoots Tom with a 60% shot

Which angel protects him?

From my understanding he would rand all the angels and see which ones hit.

Then rand all the shots and see which ones hit.

Shots that hit on angels no need to rand because it doesn't matter.

So in your case Tom would have 1 80% shot at being saved as well as a 50% shot of being saved. If either hits what lord does doesn't matter.

Like say he rands Tom's save and Tom's 80% comes through no need to rand the 50% save or 60% shot.

I think this is all correct.

12-21-2015 , 07:50 PM

#59

benneh

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Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29,207

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

I can respect the request without respecting the person

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

hmmm

That reads a lot meaner than I intended

12-21-2015 , 07:52 PM

#60

ihcjay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TehBankertin

Correct

12-21-2015 , 08:25 PM

#61

ihcjay

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Quick_Ben
Montecore
Ace of Spaids
RAORoman
Top Tier Tom
LordJvK
benneh
TehBankertin
Lissa2
fmxda
mexineil
zorkman

That's 12

12-21-2015 , 08:39 PM

#62

monstrman

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Jk monstrman is a hero

In

12-21-2015 , 09:11 PM

#63

ihcjay

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Quick_Ben
Montecore
Ace of Spaids
RAORoman
Top Tier Tom
LordJvK
benneh
TehBankertin
Lissa2
fmxda
mexineil
zorkman
monstrman

Sign up closes in 50 mins. Then randing will commence.

12-21-2015 , 09:24 PM

#64

Top Tier Tom

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Is wolf team kill unable to be protected against?

12-21-2015 , 09:25 PM

#65

monstrman

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I'm gonna have to out

Something came up

Sorry everyone

12-21-2015 , 09:26 PM

#66

ihcjay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Is wolf team kill unable to be protected against?

Wolf team kill is blockable aorn

But I'll hear arguments against that

Quote:

Originally Posted by monstrman

I'm gonna have to out

Something came up

Sorry everyone

Sorry, not allowed

12-21-2015 , 09:33 PM

#67

benneh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

Wolf team kill is blockable aorn

But I'll hear arguments against that

Sorry, not allowed

Seer can hard claim day1

12-21-2015 , 09:33 PM

#68

Zorkman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

Wolf team kill is blockable aorn

But I'll hear arguments against that

Sorry, not allowed

If every villager does a 90% save for themselves and the wolf team kill is blockable, it will be very hard for the wolves to get their night kill in, especially when you consider the importance of them being able to kill the seer when they successfully identify. I think you should reconsider to make it more fair for the wolf team. Maybe make wolf team kill blockable except versus seer or if targeted by wolf team all saves of that target are cut in half (10% to 5%, etc.) or both.

12-21-2015 , 09:35 PM

#69

Zorkman

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Actually if I could wave a magic wand and say wolf team kill is completely unblockable and any saves directed to the wolf team target are redirected back into the saver's kill percent. Does that make sense? Please consider this idea.

For example, if I as villager do a 90% save of the seer and 10% target of Player X, and the wolf team night kills the seer, the seer should be night killed and Player X should be 100% certainly killed, as well (assuming no one saves Player X or the save(s) of Player X fail).

Seer would not do a wierd hard claim on d1 and it would be more like a normal ww game then.

Last edited by Zorkman; 12-21-2015 at 09:41 PM.

12-21-2015 , 09:40 PM

#70

ihcjay

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benneh

Seer can hard claim day1

True,

But the most they can be protected is 90%.

And can't consecutively save.

Maybe I'll make it saves against the first attempt?

So the wolves will have to use a NK and try to use their shots towards the seer.

I feel like an unblockable NK is OP in this type of game.

Or I could change the percentage ratios to 25%/ 75%

So the most protection anyone could have would be 75% chance?

12-21-2015 , 09:41 PM

#71

mucksandgravs

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12-21-2015 , 09:42 PM

#72

ihcjay

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Originally Posted by Zorkman

Not sure I like this idea much tbh

12-21-2015 , 09:44 PM

#73

Zorkman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

That won't work because all it takes is 2 players to respond to a seer's hard claim with a 75% save and wolf team kill would have only a 6.25% chance of success (DUCY?)

12-21-2015 , 09:45 PM

#74

ihcjay

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Another option would be to give the wolves a "seer only" RBer

Meaning the seer could still shoot/save, but not peek if they are RB'd

This would be a specific wolf assigned the power.

12-21-2015 , 09:46 PM

#75

Zorkman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ihcjay

Not sure I like this idea much tbh

The percents still add up to 100; you can't let the village have such a huge advantage as to have a practically unkillable seer (assuming the villagers are smart enough to use their saves toward the hardclaimer under your current ruleset)

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