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12-13-2016 , 10:53 AM

#776

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Originally Posted by Montecore

Who do you think is wolfing other than me? I'd like to, you know, reread yesterday's thread with the information that gambit is a villager in mind

Seems like something someone should do

Does it really, though? What do you expect to uncover?

You've already defended voting for gambit:

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Originally Posted by Montecore

His posts were wolfy, and him AFKing the rest of the day after his wagon died down is something he's done as a wolf before.

You also made a "gjge" post directed at him which I assume was saying, correctly, that he was making no effort to solve the game. I'll reread him now, but I doubt I'm going to glean any stunning insights.

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12-13-2016 , 10:53 AM

#777

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Originally Posted by Montecore

He was voting me yesterday fwiw, and had been since 2 pm or so

This FEELS like a case of a wolf not self-prez-ing onto a wagon that they didn't want to end up derailing with their presence

Plus rascal was voting luckbox, which might be a good tiebreaker when you're trying to decide who to kill out of those with correct peeks

I disagree on this

Wolves feel fine self prezing on day one because most players do it as either alignment. Why go out of his way to push the wagon on a third target? He get's zero value out of a wagon that could potentially lynch his partner if he's a wolf.

If he's a villager, the situation is himself (v) and the counter wagon who he reads as villager, how would he react here? "We should move off Sky and myself and find another lynch/counterwagon."

Seems good to me

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12-13-2016 , 10:54 AM

#778

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Rascal was into lynching Iraise and ChrisV too.

So what conclusions are you drawing from the fact that irtm's wagon didn't go? I'm honestly asking because I've been thinking on it for a while and haven't been able to get anywhere

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12-13-2016 , 10:54 AM

#779

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Originally Posted by baudib1

So how many games have you played with Sun, seriously?

I've played probably a dozen or more w/him (counting turbos) and I would view anyone who says they could make a clear determination on him based on what he's done so far with extreme skepticism.

Right, and no way a wolf swings into the thread claiming to be able to do that, right? Upsides: none, downsides: people treating you with extreme skepticism.

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12-13-2016 , 10:55 AM

#780

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Does it really, though? What do you expect to uncover?

You've already defended voting for gambit:

You also made a "gjge" post directed at him which I assume was saying, correctly, that he was making no effort to solve the game. I'll reread him now, but I doubt I'm going to glean any stunning insights.

Chris,

I'm talking about rereading OTHER POSTERS and trying to glean whether or not they believed their gambit votes (I think many/most of the gambit voters seemed to) and who appeared to be staying out of the fray and/or jumped onto gambit for the wrong reasons

As you say, not a ton to be gleaned from gambit's posts themselves

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12-13-2016 , 10:56 AM

#781

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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO

Not voting your counter wagon is something a lot of wolves think looks villagery

Plus, if it had gotten close, I have no doubt he'd have magically found a traffic light he could have voted at and/or utilized voice to text mets style

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12-13-2016 , 10:57 AM

#782

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Originally Posted by Montecore

So what conclusions are you drawing from the fact that irtm's wagon didn't go? I'm honestly asking because I've been thinking on it for a while and haven't been able to get anywhere

I've stated many times that I think Iraise/Benjamin is a wolf.

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12-13-2016 , 10:58 AM

#783

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I'll reread him now, but I doubt I'm going to glean any stunning insights.

Can confirm.

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12-13-2016 , 10:58 AM

#784

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ChrisV is my top town

I'd kill Baudib asap

my early reads

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12-13-2016 , 10:59 AM

#785

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Right, and no way a wolf swings into the thread claiming to be able to do that, right? Upsides: none, downsides: people treating you with extreme skepticism.

There's no reason a wolf wouldn't/couldn't make a post like that.

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12-13-2016 , 10:59 AM

#786

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I've stated many times that I think Iraise/Benjamin is a wolf.

Maybe

I kind of feel like yesterday's butthurt was genuine, though I'll concede my readiness to believe emotional reactions is a leak

He's never gotten pissed off and self voted as a wolf in the last two games he's played, and this felt like genuine anger to me (although I'm not really sure over what)

Is he really self voting there as a wolf when he could quite easily cause a wagon to form on himself (i.e. essentially no one in the thread had a strong villager read on him)? I don't buy it

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12-13-2016 , 11:01 AM

#787

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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO

ChrisV is my top town

I'd kill Baudib asap

my early reads

I would guess you have approximately 0% chance of ever getting me lynched in any game of WW.

It would be even tougher for you in this case because I'm a villager.

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12-13-2016 , 11:01 AM

#788

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I would guess you have approximately 0% chance of ever getting me lynched in any game of WW.

It would be even tougher for you in this case because I'm a villager.

Villagery

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12-13-2016 , 11:01 AM

#789

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holy hell, what did my soulmate do day one

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12-13-2016 , 11:01 AM

#790

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welp, I should probably read EOD at some point.

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12-13-2016 , 11:03 AM

#791

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Originally Posted by baudib1

I would guess you have approximately 0% chance of ever getting me lynched in any game of WW.

It would be even tougher for you in this case because I'm a villager.

Wouldn't it be easier to lynch you as villager?

You have no partner, if you're a wolf you have partners that can defend you and act as several votes against the counter?

hmm seems fishy

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12-13-2016 , 11:03 AM

#792

Montecore

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Originally Posted by baudib1

welp, I should probably read EOD at some point.

What wolf does this at 5:21

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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch

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and then peaces out of the thread when there was a real reluctance to lynch gambit because it seemed too easy (correctly, as it turned out) and everyone was looking for an alternative?

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12-13-2016 , 11:05 AM

#793

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Monte calling me a villager

VILLA MONTE IS LEADING

Let's go

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12-13-2016 , 11:05 AM

#794

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Originally Posted by BenjaminAO

Wouldn't it be easier to lynch you as villager?

You have no partner, if you're a wolf you have partners that can defend you and act as several votes against the counter?

hmm seems fishy

Well, presumably it's easier for villagers to make villagery posts and not have heat to begin with, but other than that, I guess you're right

Ben, lmk when you've read through the thread completely

I'm going to operate on the assumption that you're a villager for now in italics so let's try and work together

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12-13-2016 , 11:11 AM

#795

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I don't know what to make of the Iraise hissyfit.

I'm not exactly ready to clear him for it.

Too many of you clowns were fake peeking me yesterday when you're obviously not the seer. Play better next time, guys.

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12-13-2016 , 11:11 AM

#796

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I gotta hit the hay

Monte if you could drop some wolf candidates at some point that would be dreamy

Village hard br0s

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12-13-2016 , 11:11 AM

#797

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SWEET

SHC

Now lets lynch monte.

Spoiler:

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12-13-2016 , 11:12 AM

#798

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I don't like Luckbox's EOD btw, but I thought he was a villager earlier.

ChrisV: how would you describe yourself as a wolf?

If there's a wolf having a really good game, I'd say it was you or Monkey.

(I have you both as villagers, with varying/shifting degrees of confidence).

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12-13-2016 , 11:13 AM

#799

Montecore

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

I gotta hit the hay

Monte if you could drop some wolf candidates at some point that would be dreamy

Village hard br0s

I'm in the process of clearing villagers, skippy

The ones that remain shall be my wolves

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Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

SWEET

SHC

Now lets lynch monte.

Spoiler:

Let me ask you a question

If you do manage to lynch me, how dumb are you going to feel when I flip villager?

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12-13-2016 , 11:14 AM

#800

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Votes from post 673 to post 799
Night in 07:46:14
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	Montecore	baudib1 (32), ChrisV (27)
1	baudib1	Captain Hook (13)
1	Luckbox Inc	Montecore (26)
7	not voting	Ace of Spaids (0), BenjaminAO (13), Duckburg (1), Luckbox Inc (0), Sun Tzu (0), theknightsofneeee (1), Xander Biscuits (9)

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