It's been mentioned earlier - both claimed really early. I thought both were wolves pre-claim. Loretta claimed and had no association with 425. Pressure was put on 425, and he also claimed.

I think the sneaky part would be 425 with a wolf view on Loretta - perhaps to try to instill the notion that the two aren't w/w.

yeah but claiming a PR as lead wagon is badddddddddd if the 2nd wagon is also a wolf

My first thought was w/w but probably due to inexperience, loving your recent contributions tho and the explanations from askdal are also really helpful.

Firstly, if I was going to bus filthy (which is not impossible for me as a wolf), then I would bus for sure, and not hesitate/ half-bus/half-defend. It looks terrible, and I know it. I did it as a villager because I wasn't sure, and was trying to make the right decision, but as a wolf it's just silly.

You said I didn't have time to move off filthy. But I was in the thread, off and on, for several hours before EoD. I had plenty of time to organise myself, as a wolf. Plus, it's not hard to jump at the last minute, if I wanted to. Like, how did I not have time to type 'anarchist' in bold. So that doesn't hold up, IMO.

The reason I was having trouble in the first place is because I read the whole thread, in detail, and cleared just about everyone who posted. I put up a big reads list, with like, 2 wolves? on it (you and Loretta). As a wolf, I wouldn't clear the whole thread, leaving me no one to vote for.

I was hoping more people would come back before EoD, so I could get a better rad on them. I was getting frustrated at the lack of involvement (which has continued through today) from several people.

doesn't add up imo

so say Loretta's a wolf. He claims and tries to get 425 lynched when it's SUPER LIKELY that he will in fact get 425 lynched. This is the worst case of bussing imaginable. Loretta is a super easily resolvable wolf. Bussing has NO POSITIVE CONSEQUENCES. Why would he go after 425 after claiming? It makes no sense.

Add onto the fact that once 425 starts realizing he's going to get wagoned because of HIS WOLF BROS FAKE CLAIM, he should EASILY be able to dissemble Loretta's claim because HE KNOWS ITS FAKE. Why would he have to claim? He knows its fake. It's the easiest thing to fight ever.

makes no sense imo

I think Aksdal is making sense here, about Loretta and 425 not being w/w.

another reason I'm wary of you is that you have NO read on me. tbf I haven't been around much in the middle of the days, but I also had a wolf list with filthy and loretta on it. I also came hard at 425 early in d1. 1 is an outed wolf and 2 you have wolf leans on.

==creeps

I agree with Aksdal. Me and Loretta are never w/w and Fluttershy is being really weird here.

it's not like some big secret if the two of you are both wolves, we'll find out later when the real seer and geep die. dont think it will happen, just sayin

These were the conditions in which Loretta claimed and makes me feel that w/w is even more likely:

Loretta agreed with Crossnerd with a simple "you're right" and just straight voted 425.

Loretta would know that the claim was an exercise of last resort. It's worth noting that he also tried to distance by voting 425 just before he claimed.

Coincidentally, 425 claimed with a wolf view of Loretta.

There was no clear second wagon when Loretta claimed so the wolves wouldn't know that Loretta's claim would push the votes onto 425. Therefore, I think that it is a wolf/wolf scenario.

Of course, thankfully, we don't have to resolve anything. That's just my stance.

Rereading cracked right now. Him and Loretta are virtually lock w/w.
Cracked. You really need to explain yourself.

yeah i mean we'll find out, and since we don't even have a vig, there is no downside to the angel protecting one of them, if he's a wolf doesn't do anything anyway

I agree that a claim is an exercise of last resort

I ask, why would a wolf use it when he has perfect knowledge that the existing claim is FOS?

Loretta had a ton of heat

The village should know to not let him determine wagons. If 425 was a wolf, then someone on his wolfteam should have known.

It all seems to desperate. It would almost be a concession by the wolves

fluttershy, have you ever thunderdomed anyone?

would you like to?

how is it possible that i wake up at 2pm and am dead tired right now?

no turbos to keep the blood flowing.

Looks like loretta has give up. I want Lolcats when he gets back

can you give me a wolf team soul read list (5 players)

just so I know where ur at right now

I don't understand your statement here.

Loretta did have a ton of heat, so he claimed. He could be a wolf and he did it to save himself, or he could be the geep and he did it to save himself.

The village then decided to lynch 425 instead and he decided that he had to claim in order to save himself. He could be the seer, he could be a wolf. This is independent of Loretta claiming. Are you arguing that he wouldn't have peeked Loretta wolf?

loretta
quads
dunno
dunno
dunno

probably 3 people not posting

Plus, Fluttershy, you seem to think Loretta is a wolf. Do you we were arguing as w/w, and I wanted to wagon her as a wolf?

Fluttershy, what do you think about my case on xnerd being a villager here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1838

no, I'm just arguing the possibility of w/w

if wolf loretta claims and heat goes onto wolf425, I think wolf425 has a lot more options before claiming 20 hours before EOD than villa425

I have thunderdomed someone before.



There's...nobody I want to thunderdome so far.

anarchist, same question

maybe, not sure

we aren't even sure loretta is a wolf now