i started going after aksdal where there was zero heat on him. if there was a bussing it would have been aksdal > me not me > aksdal

and aksdal was a wolf. are you saying the wolf was making good points on me? are you really making a case based on 27 right now?

i have no idea what this means, what night kills would i have had to fade? why cant i survive to must lynch?

it seems like youre coming in here today wanting to make sure no one is clearing me and making sure i remain a possible lynch.

tappokone

Yesterday's voting

The previous day's voting (before CFD):
After CFD and re-wagon of VMF:

Myself and EADGBE were the only ones who stayed on the Aksdal wagon to the end both days. Note that Willi would appear to have been as well, looking at the tables, but he actually attempted to change his vote from Aksdal to VMF (but VMF had already had enough votes for maj). For EADGBE to be w/w with Aksdal he'd have to be bussing him pretty early on. And doing so when there's 11 villagers and only 2 wolves left is a pretty bad play by the wolves IMO.

Tappokone, Nofear, and DB305 didn't vote for Aksdal either day. I think it's more likely than not that Aksdal's partner puts at least one vote on him over this period so I'm inclined to give these guys village credit. Which confirms what I'd already believed as these are some of the most villagery people left in the game.

XXsooted votes Aksdal the first day but yesterday he puts a vote on him and then unvotes soon afterward. Now if sooted was trying to bus the first day, surely he'd do the same the next day? Vote/unvoting here as w/w is really weird.

Noah doesn't vote him the first day but does the second when he gets wagoned. I have to read over last night and read Aksdal/Noah's posts and interations in the thread to evaluate if it's possible they are w/w. It seems a bit more likely than some of the alternatives.

Willi had a weird vote change the first day off of Aksdal after the CFD went down, and despite making some defenses I've found villagery he still hasn't been saying much and has done some weird things. So I'm most likely voting for Willi today.

TheNothing would probably be my next choice after Willi. He needs to post a bit more IMO.

why were you voting off wagon?

is this why youre coming after me? because i'm the only one who has you on my wolfdar right now?

i keep finding myself clearing nofear

and noah was villagy on tone last eod, and aksdal was trying super hard to spew him wolf it seemed.

dont wanna go willi or thenothing

tappo would make sense as a wolf in the context of the game

If you're not dead within a couple of days, you become the overwhelming favorite to be the wolf.

Hence "...must not survive to the end of the game" instead of "must be lynched immediately."

Yeah it gets tough at this point because pretty much everyone is generally villagery.

And it's possible that the wolf didn't vote on Aksdal's wagon yesterday and then would try to clear themselves on that, but I doubt it.

db>sooted>akspart

i can easily make f3 here

are you setting yourself up for down the line?

I don't like this post by tappo. If the wolves are confident that the village will mislynch a villager if he isn't NKd at some point, then they WON'T NK HIM.

Can you explain this?

Your question is a bit vague. Why did I vote for Willi in the first place? I made my argument for him yesterday. Why didn't I vote for Aksdal at the end? Because McAvoy got there first.

So that aksdal wagoned me twice at the start of the day and I was on him for the 3 days doesn't mean nothing to you?

I also voted for vmf before maj, but i forgot bolding so i needed to make new post. I did not cfd for the sooted, because I did not believe much that he is a wolf, but jumped to vmf wagon, because there was some uncertantity about him and aksdal wagon was never going to happen.

Probably noah or eadgbe would be my choice today. I am goin to the cinema soon, but noah gets the vote so far. Mac thought he is the wolf and things has not clear him much. Also it is pretty annoying that you do not want to watch askdal case and blindly use that systolic advice. He was pretty wrong about aksdal and this changes lot the advice he gave to us.

Lynching you assumes that Willi is a villager, not only because there's only one wolf left, but also because of Willi's day one vote switch. I want to test the Willi part of the equation before I even contemplate your side of it.

can someone link me post why tappokone is lock villa?

Sorry, no. It makes sense for two wolves to be adversarial if one or more of them are receiving heat.

you didnt just not vote for aksdal

you ignored his wagon for 2 days and just made hedgy noncomittal posts about him.

why are you in such a rush to lynch willi?

hes the guy who the wolfs have been trying to get lynched forever, remember?

like me?

your reads are too firm, like how youre clinging to your noah vlean no matter what since like d2.


look how super careful your list is

you wont get caught out on any of the wolfs

you rode that no real opinion on aksdal thing to the very end

hes not

Tappokone, please don't be offended by this request. I'm just doing due diligence.

Given the current state of affairs, could someone besides me and EADGBE re-read tappokone?

I am sure hoping he is not leading us down a villagery path to doom, but given Aksdal's lynch as wolf yesterday, I'm seeing some holes showing in his analysis. I am not going to spell these out yet because I feel my aggressiveness has caused people to draw conclusions based upon my arguments.

also I would give more credit to players who were on aksdal wagon in supine/aksdal day.

Willi if you made more posts like this you would be far easier to clear. This is a really good point that I wasn't aware of. You bussing Aksdal that early is even less likely than some of the earlier bus options. And your attempted vote off of Aksdal two days ago would make even less sense if you had indeed been trying to bus him before then.

these posts are easily w/w

saying "i have no opinion on him because hes not a lynch" is a wolfy mindset. as long as someone is unclear, you always want more information.

I think I mentioned it couple of times already.

unvote

People considering lynching Noah should keep in mind that he's had some extremely villagery moments in this game. I've earlier noted how he started the HiFi wagon when the Timi wagon was already running and Noah had expressed concerns about Timi.

Here's a more recent example. I believe this was posted shortly before Noah started receiving any serious heat:
Wolves are supposed to cast doubt on cleared players, but not like this! I believe the following to be true:

1.) Noah is never getting DB mislynched there.
2.) DB is as strong of a candidate to make the final three as anyone.
3.) DB is inclined to conclude that people who call him wolfy are wolves.

It's inconceivable to me that a wolf Noah would bother to reread the thread in an attempt to build a case on DB, when any wolf dreaming of victory should clearly be buttering up the guy instead.

Or consider, if you will, last night's vote. Noah votes for Aksdal, but shortly before EOD, he posts:
So he buses Aksdal, but at the last minute decides to lessen any credit he might get for it? You may argue that he's doing advanced leveling, but really, it's overwhelmingly more likely that he's just a villager who wasn't privy to the information that Aksdal is a wolf.