It was a small lean, but his paranoia regarding Fluttershy was a villagery sentiment, I thought, and it was similar to how I felt (which I explained at the bottom of my entry post). I don't have a villager lean on him anymore, but that original lean was enough to justify ranking him ahead of VM in my lynch preference order, which is all I was saying.

Which post did you think I'd missed?

Jim you are too ****ing smart for my shenanigans.

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So I had these delusions of grandeur that I could pretend to out myself as wolf when I'm not actually a wolf, lay low for a while and gauge people's reactions, and then make a bunch of reads based off those reactions. I made a post that I thought would look like a PM that I intended to send to a wolf buddy, and figured people would instantly jump on me for it. I thought people would speculate on who that post was sent to, which player I was "bussing," etc.. etc...

I figured wolves would no idea how to react when I make that post since they know I'm not a wolf and would be awkward, while villagers would react with genuine surprise and curiosity. It didn't happen.

Look at this nifty code I'd made to clear myself in my previous post too...

It did not work out at all like I'd planned, especially when the only response I got was basically "zomg nice one br0." I didn't calculate for the possibility that JH would stare deep into my soul and LOL.

Cliffs of my attempt at FPS:



Conclusions? Jim gets like 4.3 villager points and everyone who didn't respond gets like 0.412 wolf points. I was hoping I could make some really strong reads based on reactions but since I got basically no reaction I really can't do that.

Back to your regularly scheduled program already in progress: "Sangaman: Tales of a Villager"

Shanks, my friend, my concern is how did you notice that peek from WN? It's somewhat concealed on page 1 and was made over a day before you subbed in to this game. I just can't imagine you as a villager going back and checking titles of posts on page 1 of live players. Like what do you stand to gain from that if you're a villager, it's hard enough just to read through the ~350 posts you missed and get up to speed without checking titles for peeks.

Do you really think Kruze is ever going to do anything that clears him? It's late in day 2 and he's still done nothing - I don't see that changing.

Can you explain to me when and how you noticed WN's fake fakepeek of Jim?

lol, I was too busy reading yesterday to catch that

I confess that once I know you are a villager I may not actually read all of your posts :P

No, I thought I'd missed a post. Like you were mocking someone and then decided to continue it

Like someone who goes "yeah, wolfchat is totally going down like this!"

We were in F3 of True Blood.

VarianceMinefield

well named has been looking better recently; VM's still doing nothing.

I actually tried to read the game this time around. I've missed parts of games before and just got swamped in stuff. At some stages I skimmed, at some stages I read slowly. when I was reading slowly, I saw WN's post (which was after Anarchists post). I've been taught by sillyman to check for this sort of stuff even as a villa because it can help you figure out who may be clear.

Idk if Kruze will ever clear himself, but we can easily get him later when he hasn't. It seems like a bit of a shot in the dark to lynch him right now.

I noticed the fakepeek when i was reading day 1. Besides, it turns out it wasnt even his fakepeek anyway.

maybe tomorrow?

This is his villager game, I've seen it before a lot of times.

Were you so snarky about my case in NBA? I don't think you were. Why suddenly get annoyed about a case on you?





If you believe I'm a villager and the wolves are likely to sit back and watch and see what happens, who do you think falls under that category? You should also have some form of read on those that defended me around the same time. Do you?

Of course you wouldnt defend ALL the villagers, but don't you agree this would be a pretty damn important one?


If you break it down that way, yes. I don't believe that's an accurate breakdown though:

1. Mine on you in NBA was an admitted tinfoil theory at the time, and was focused on "this is a potential thing he could do as a wolf, and I cant figure out how he'd have these reads as a villager, so he's prolly a wolf". Palo was because I thought HE WAS AVOIDING INTERACTING WITH ME. They are NOTHING alike.

2. Your generic break down of my Palo case as a "meh he didnt do something and he thought he was wolfy for it" is ridiculous. He was IN THE THREAD TWICE. And he avoided me. TWICE.




You already stated you didn't expect wolves to be on me early because it'd look bad if they were wrong. Well named was on me first. Why was he still a wolf lean from that?


This is true regardless of your role



This is uber thin, but acceptable I suppose

Sure! Now that it's over
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...-24-a-1116981/

Sanga: I love the plan, and think it was executed well. We had talked about it though so I knew it was unlikely to happen etc. I still dont know what to make of nobody else commenting on it.

You asked to discuss Shanks: I think he sounds genuine in his "whoops my mistake" defense. It's a pretty easy mistake - I made it too. I don't think he should be lynched for it, especially since he's rather newish and should be easier to discern with more info later.


Now I ask you: Discuss Zsj.



I dont have many posts remaining.

Lol. Ironically that was one of the shortest posts I've had all game.

But on a serious note, when I'm clear that's when you know you can trust my reads because they're genuine. Just sayin'.

Yeah I see. Maybe I laid it on too thick. Who would've thought spewing yourself wolf would be so hard...

This was supposed to be the cliffs btw, but image didn't show:

I have to get going to a concert soon. I don't like a VM lynch because he is my peek. I'm going to sponge you, Sanga, on anyone else since you were my first peek and I think you're a villager.

I remember this now. Makes sense.

I also agree that there are some similarities between Jim's case on you in NBA and Jim's case on Palo this game, I believe I voiced that sentiment earlier today.

Yeah he posted a couple times but he said he was busy and wouldn't really have time to participate and that's what happened. To me it didn't really look like he was consciously trying to avoid you, and now that we know he's a villager it's evident that was the case.

I still think zsj is probably a villager. I don't think it's very likely he was defending you (Jim) just so he could look good. Especially because it's far from certain you're getting lynched today, so even if you're a villager we might not know it for a while and therefore zsj can't really get credit for defending you for a while. I think it probably would've been wolfier for him to just ignore the case on you, and hope you get mislynched and that way, if you do, your mousey blood wouldn't be on his hands.

Hmmm I don't know who this sillyman guy is but I like that you're using specifics in this story. Another thing going in your favor is that n my experience (from batman) you don't really put up much of a fight when you think you've goofed and the pressure's on. Plus I think there are better lynches than you. So I still think this whole thing with you knowing about subtle fakepeeks from page 1 is a bit suspicious, but I think I'm fine with not lynching you today.

Hello again everyone. Catching up with what I missed. Anything I should know right this moment? If not I will be reading the thread.

I think kruze is wolfy but he did leave a peek fwiw

everything is both bad and good

the world is not black and white

sanga

what are your cliffs notes thoughts on kruze, fluttershy, and vmf

Master3004

27a I think you should make your own decisions on who to vote for. While it's nice to hold the orb of justice, I think it's better for the game if people make their own reads and vote for their own reasons. The village gets more information that way.

I'm personally not officially decided on who I'm voting for yet, but I've expressed my top candidates several times today.

K, post your reads and thoughts.

Wow I just had crazy dejavu. Look at the highlighted. Do you remember d1 of Batman. You pushed shanks (you were a villager). I defended shanks (he and I were wolves). My main defense was basically "shanks is new so he's prone to making mistakes like these as a villager... also we should be able to read him better on future days since he's pretty obvious as a wolf." Is that not eerily similar to what you just said about Shanks? What are your thoughts on this (this question goes to anyone who was in that Batman game)?

pretty sure he hasn't peaked yet and is still getting going

I went to bed and realised i'd forgotten to check my vote was on a wagon

who are the wagons?

Well that was easy, this is one of my lock wolves.

What is the current vote count?