What day did the bomb go off? Day 3?

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	Eurotrash	TheNothing (20), DWetzel (64), Kojiru (10), SirRawrsALot (8), El_Timon (15)
3	DWetzel	Bremen (64), tmleafs1967 (22), filthyvermin (17)
1	unvote	DiggertheDog (153)
2	not voting	Eurotrash (39), Booker Wolfbox (9)

I mean that you seem unwilling to express an opinion on a lot of people, probably in the hopes that we go slightly wrong down the line and you can glom onto that mistake.

Now, "unwilling" may just be "I haven't done it yet", in which case carry on and actually do it, but right now I've got a burgeoning suspicion that you are bussing Euro here and may well be specifically the wolf day vig.

Kojiru could well be it too actually, unverifiable claim + spooky good shot lists + wolf lists.

More or less in order, but the underbelly is what needs to get sorted out for us to win this game:

Never lynching

booker
TN
filthy
SirRawrs (if he's a GF, good luck to you guys at f3 if there is a f3)

Probably unwise to lynch, even though I kinda want to anyway
Digger

The underbelly that has to have 2-3 wolves
Bremen
tmleafs
Kojiru
El Timon

Needs to die and right soon
Eurotrash

I mean, if you want to take a flyer on the wolf day vig and just assume wolves are bussing Euro (which I think is a risky assumption to make, but whatever), then I'd look at one of El Timon or Kojiru. Possibly Bremen (who I actually probably should have put below leafs, but whatever), but I kinda don't think so.

Kojiru's day 2:

Comes in the thread to defend himself because bloo was putting him as wolfy.

Shoots pry out of the blue, but explains himself and the explanation makes sense.

More mechanics/lore talk:

This is actually the first time he provides a read. Two of them are cylons which he had said before "most cylons should be considered as likely wolves" and a meta read on ragnarok. Thoroughly unimpressive list of reads if you ask me.

Then votes klingbard and explains that it is because of CT's claim, which is fine.

In conclusion, another unimpressive day. Defends himself and says "I never said I was going to try hard, I just said I was ready for the game" and gives reads that are purely mechanical and metagame related.

Mostly for me, for reference

Booker – clear mason
ITA – shot BWG on Day5
Day1 vote – vyk (lynched villager)
Day2 vote – zdye
Day3 vote – BWG
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote – not voting

Bremen
ITA – Pry, Redd, VMF, jedi, Jim/Gabe
Day1 vote – vyk (lynched villager)
Day2 vote – zdye
Day3 vote – klairic
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote - reddboiler

Digger
ITA – D1 no shot, bloo, zdye, N/A, BWG
Day1 vote – klingbard
Day2 vote – zdye
Day3 vote – well named
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote - Error

Dwetzel
ITA – D1 no shot, Pry, zdye, jedi, BWG
Day1 vote – not voting
Day2 vote – klingbard
Day3 vote – klairic
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote - reddboiler

El Timon
ITA – D1 no shot, filthy, zdye, wellnamed, jedi, BWG
Day1 vote – confirmedtroll
Day2 vote – klingbard
Day3 vote – well named
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote - Eurotrash

Eurotrash
ITA – D1 no shot, VMF, pry, VMF, VMF
Day1 vote – klingbard
Day2 vote – klingbard
Day3 vote – Klairic
Day4 vote – well named
Day5 vote - reddboiler

Filthyvermin
ITA – D1 no shot, BATM, Duck, vader, D5 no shot
Day1 vote – vyk (lynched villager)
Day2 vote – duck
Day3 vote – Klairic
Day4 vote – reddboiler
Day5 vote - Eurotrash

Kojiru
ITA – D1, pry, pry, jedi, jim/gabe
Day1 vote – SGT ARR JAY
Day2 vote – klingbard
Day3 vote – dbmurph
Day4 vote – reddboiler
Day5 vote - reddboiler

SirRawrsALot
ITA – Pry on day1
Day1 vote – vyk (lynched villager)
Day2 vote – filthyvermin
Day3 vote – Bremen
Day4 vote – pry
Day5 vote - reddboiler

TheNothing
ITA – D1 no shot, N/A, jedi, D4 no shot, kojiru
Day1 vote – Klingbard
Day2 vote – not in game
Day3 vote – Klairic
Day4 vote – pry
Day5 vote - reddboiler

Tmleafs
ITA – D1 no shot, pry, pry, jedi, BWG
Day1 vote – filthyvermin
Day2 vote – zomghax (wn) no chance at lynch
Day3 vote – Klairic
Day4 vote – pry
Day5 vote – Eurotrash

Day1 votes
9 – klingbard (5 villagers, 1 wolf, digger, euro, TN)
9 – vyk (5 villagers, 0 wolves, booker, Bremen, filthy, rawrs)
6 – confirmedtroll (4 villagers, 1 wolf, el timon)
Kojiru off wagon on a SGT ARR JAY
Leafs off wagon on filthyvermin
Dwetz not voting

Day2 votes
15 – Klingbard (8 villagers, 3 wolves, dwetz, el timon, euro, kojiru)
10 – zdye (7 villagers, booker, Bremen, digger)
sirrawrs off wagon on filthyvermin
filthyvermin off wagon on duck
leafs off wagon on zomghax (w/n) along with watevs (wolf)

Day3 votes
14 Klairic (6 villagers, 2 wolves, bremen, dwetz, euro, filthy, tn, leafs)
11 – wellnamed (8 villagers, 1 wolf, digger, timon)
booker off wagon on BWG
sirrawrs off wagon on Bremen
kojiru off wagon on dbmurph

Day4 votes
11 – wellnamed (4 villagers, kojiru, Bremen, timon, booker, euro, dwetz, digger)
8 – pry (2 villagers, 3 wolves, tn, leafs, rawrs)
filthy off wagon reddboiler (no chance of lynch)






imo euro & leafs don't look too good

also kojiru

not looking good

OK, had to check. Yes, day 3.

Q: Why wouldn't they set it off day 2, if they could? There was a real risk that pry would be dead for real when the resurrection hub went down near the end of day 2.

A: Because pry wasn't able to set it. Because he wasn't around and then got sent back to resurrection. Which wolves wouldn't want to have happen, because they'd really rather talk about shooting him and shoot someone else. (Hi, insanity. Hi, Euro.)

That would be correct. What are you tinfoiling about?

On the underlined, I've already said that I think digger is likely to be a villager, and I've had leafs in my wolfdar due to some thin accusations he has made in the last couple of days, but I need to read him more to get a better read.

"haven't done it yet" is correct, and that's what I'm trying to do now.

TN, can you explain why you think euro/leafs/kojiru don't look good based on those votes?

which, if correct, looks good for me, leafs, and kojiru, for those of you scoring at home.

Disclaimer: I'm not at all sure it's correct; maybe they already set it and didn't care, maybe pry didn't need to be around to send it.

It was also slightly good to put a cylon wolf down early in ITAs, by the way, insofar as they at least don't get their shot off.

Kojiru's d3. I am starting to get tired of pointing out how uninspired his day is and I'm starting to get a very shady vibe about his votes.

Comes in for event:

Interacts with WN, who was with him in the champions game.

Shoots pry again.
More lore talk.
And finally this is the post that sketches me out the most.

He hasn't mentioned dbmurph all game except to point out that he was with him in the champions game. What's more surprising to me is that he's put ragnarok in his wolf pile on d2, and is now voting dbmurph without any justification. Both turn out to be villagers, and I would expect kojiru to have a better grasp on their game since they're the only known players to him.

Going to brunch with the family, be back in about 90 I think

I wanted to stop at this post on d4, because it is the first in which Kojiru makes a decent sized list.

No explanation on why he trusts these people. But the most interesting thing is, all of these players are still alive!

Is he a wolf trying to keep his "villager" reads around for long?

His wolf list is comprised of three peeked players, one villager for whom he has a meta read (ragnarok), and a wolf who he calls a "maybe confused villager". This is day 4 already, I would expect a good player to have more substantiated reads at this point.

Oh yeah, lol. Herp derp clear?

it's a combo of votes/ITA shots/general feeling

it's like the shots and votes feel like they are done to fit in and to skate by without suspicion

I'm just gathering info and haven't actually "read" stuff today. yes, I'm giving myself an out to find something that changes my mind.

wasn't kojiru he one who made the post about *cracking knuckles* and how he wasn't gonna be passive his game compared to last time?

The rest of kojiru's d4:

Shoots a wolf who was on his wolf list. Good.

CT brings up the lack of talk about kojiru. This could indicate that kojiru is a wolf PR.

Votes pry, who has resurrected twice already.

VMF calls him out for that vote.

he addresses VMF but his explanation makes no sense. Pry is a cylon who already resurrected twice, and thus shouldn't be lynched until the resurrection ship is gone, yet he keeps voting him.

More discussion about lynching pry, while still keeping his vote on him, and after he said that not lynching WN the day before was terrible.

And finally changes his vote. Why not change it earlier since everyone was assuming that pry could not die?

CT's question is interesting, I don't think there had been much discussion about him up to that point and that could indicate that he's a wolf PR. I am already thinking ahead about his claim and that could be a way of getting some heat off him so he can live longer. That fits with him possibly being the remaining wolf vig.

Yes, see my first MQ about him.

Kojiru, since it seems that you're around could you comment on my posts about you?

Would you like me to wait until after you're done or now?

That's not what I was saying