care to explain why?

IANAWW should be the 2nd wagon

he isn't even trying to play pro-villa at all

first he said he would ITA Gabe and now he is voting bobman

I agree with monik.

Right now I feel IANAWW is a really good second wagon.

So many people are wolfy right now, jfc

please tell me more. preferably with quotes.

If people drift into another random bad wagon like they did with Palo, I'm going to slam my head against a wall.

isn't thiradell a new player?

Anyone wanting to propose a second wagon should have to make at least as detailed and persuasive case as Hadis made on Bremen.

I don't think there is a serious change of cake not being the first wagon.

Who would you consider good and bad second wagons?

what are the good wagons atm iyo?

Seriously this. Stay on target. Cake-VM-Bremen is good.

Basically. He was very good and villagery in GoT.

moni:

I used to think it was important to make cases and state reasoning for every action. I still think it's good. I do not, however, think it is necessary. Time will tell eventually what what means.

This game I have been voting gut-reads. You seem fairly convinced that I am a wolf. I am not. Pushing me as you have makes you wolfie, imo. You won't get info from wagonning me because I do not have info, but if you want to keep killing villagers w/ Gabe, by all means - loose the hounds.

I wanted to ITA Gabe, but I missed ITAs.

I am voting Bob because I want to see how others react to him being voted.

Don't ask me "why". Tell me "why not".

I'm going to be heading out soon, as I have to go to work

I'll let others chime in on the second wagon, as I am going to vote cakewalk and hope he goes down.

cakewalk

I like Variance and Bremen. Cases have been made on both of them (although I agree with whoever said that Variance might be less likely to make that comment about cakewalk as w/w if he knew cakewalk was day angeled -- which has a whole bunch of assumptions in it).

I also think Thiradell has been wolfy.

And honestly, if people really want to look off-wagon right now, I'd recommend that someone take a spin through wisski's posts. I can't do a multi-quote of my own right now, but I think he's been damn wolfy as well.

I'll prob switch to Bremen over Variance; the biggest thing holding me back is Silman's cryptic hard defense of him where he went from advocating that he be ITAed to telling people never to wagon him in the space of twenty minutes on d2.

noob wolf would have no idea how to fake all the villagery thought processes in this post

this is silly

not everything requires a reason but absent any it looks like your play is not at all constructive to village

you have also gone from a gut read on gabe to a gut read on bob to calling me wolfy for calling you out for absurd reasoning

It should actually be a combo of us asking you why and you telling us, along with us telling you why not.

As far as why not gabe, because I think he's been really villagery, and I still hold to that read.

Now, tell me 'why'

FTR - Gabe, Gad, and Moni have all self-outted PRs w/o pressure, right?

So you are voting people without giving reads or reason and you find it wolfy for people to find that behaviour wolfy?

bob said to kill younguns while people were talking about younguns being peeked by moni

There is info to be gained from this imo.

IANAWW i don't buy it

you are trying to justify a play style that is inherently better for a wolf than a villager

I really think I've entered the twilight zone this game. So many people are doing so many crazy ass things.

A.Ert:

Unsupported votes are not uncommon. Getting tunneled for doing so while I claim that I'm changing my play style seems wrong.