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09-17-2013 , 04:58 PM

#3976

marvellosity

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lol despite everything i've said today, i can see myself voting blood fox in the end

this is dumb. or rather i am dumb. whatever

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09-17-2013 , 04:58 PM

#3977

chrja

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Seriously read Blood Fox' posts. He doesn't give reads at all - he know he is going down after that d3 block, he is trying not to spew.

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09-17-2013 , 05:00 PM

#3978

Fennec Fox

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Votes from post 3682 to post 3977
Night in 3:00:57
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	traz	Nana7 (11), fank009 (37)
2	Blood Fox	DrippingGoofball (66), chrja (16)
1	chrja	Athexx (2)
1	TaylorFitz	AngryPidgeon (31)
2	unvote	marvellosity (71), TaylorFitz (19)
3	not voting	traz (23), Magic no wait UDFK (2), Blood Fox (0)

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09-17-2013 , 05:02 PM

#3979

marvellosity

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Two of BloodFox/Athexx/Magic kinda makes sense with the Foolishness cop claim.

But I'd just talked myself into blood fox being town

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09-17-2013 , 05:05 PM

#3980

chrja

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Two of BloodFox/Athexx/Magic kinda makes sense with the Foolishness cop claim.

But I'd just talked myself into blood fox being town

I wouldn't mind magic as second wagon today. Reading his post today made me feel like he knows what is going on and he is following the game closely, but he is having a hard time posting and contributing.

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09-17-2013 , 05:09 PM

#3981

chrja

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Originally Posted by Magic no wait UDFK

Just cause mastin flipped town doesn't mean his reads are right. Still think Blood Fox is scum and of the others I have the least reason to believe chrja is town.

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Originally Posted by Magic no wait UDFK

Chewbacca defense is a joke from the mafia section on Taylor and I's forum. Anyway, town survivor is on the front page and Fitz has been vintage town Fitz all game. Lynching him would be bad.

Nana and chrja should be re-examined. Can't do it tonight as I have school in the morning but I will when I get home tomorrow if someone else hasn't.

Don't lynch Fitz.

These are the post i am talking about.

Both of them shows that he is following the game, but both of them are pop ins just stating some reads, he doesn't stay around trying to interact with people - To me this looks like a person thats having a hard time figuring out what to write.

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09-17-2013 , 05:15 PM

#3982

marvellosity

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But then why would Magic be pushing a lynch on BF there?

Also, do you really think BF would be martyring when he's only one of 2 remaining in a sea of townies?

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09-17-2013 , 05:15 PM

#3983

Athexx

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Originally Posted by traz

Really hard for me to hunt while at work, did athexx suspect chrja much before today?

No, I didn't. I was reading him as good. But between you who I've been reading as good, and Taylor who I was convinced was good from Day 1, chrja was the most suspicious remaining.

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09-17-2013 , 05:20 PM

#3984

marvellosity

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Also why would Foolishness want to wagon Blood Fox at the start of day 4 instead of someone like Athexx, Magic, or any townie basically (if BF is mafia)

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09-17-2013 , 05:20 PM

#3985

chrja

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

But then why would Magic be pushing a lynch on BF there?

Also, do you really think BF would be martyring when he's only one of 2 remaining in a sea of townies?

1. I have absolutely no idea, I have seen wolfs doing some ******ed stuff even in this game.

2. Would he ever be martyring as a villager? I have never myself selfvoted as a villager it makes no sens at all. As a wolf you can do it as a level and just hope the village finds it to wolfy to be a wolf. And to be honest if the wolf team is exactly Blood fox and magic i think they kind of gave up and are just waiting on the game to end.

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09-17-2013 , 05:21 PM

#3986

chrja

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Originally Posted by Athexx

No, I didn't. I was reading him as good. But between you who I've been reading as good, and Taylor who I was convinced was good from Day 1, chrja was the most suspicious remaining.

Who would you prefere to lynch.

Disregard the wagons and all.

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09-17-2013 , 05:22 PM

#3987

Athexx

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Originally Posted by chrja

If it wasn't between me and traz(and i don't really see why it should be) who would you like to lynch? Don't hide behind only voting people that are already wagons.

Magic, but mostly due to elimination of players who I have been leaning good on, and mastin's argument that in this "champions" game the good mafia will be really good villagery has me doubting my normal modus operandi, which is precisely that elimination of players I am leaning good on.

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09-17-2013 , 05:24 PM

#3988

chrja

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Also why would Foolishness want to wagon Blood Fox at the start of day 4 instead of someone like Athexx, Magic, or any townie basically (if BF is mafia)

I wouldn't read much into what foolish did after his claim.

He knew that he would be lynched at some point in the near future - anything he did after that claim is some sort of level. In situations like this i think the correct way to look at it as a villager is to completely disregard it, unless you know the person well and feel like you can figure out what level he is on.

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09-17-2013 , 05:24 PM

#3989

Athexx

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Originally Posted by chrja

decisions not results.

A simple concept yet so many people fail to understand it.

Blood Fox was and still is the wolf vig

See this is the primary reason I had been still wanting to vote him. There IS a wolf vig out there and the most likely person for it to be is Blood Fox, due to the known block by DGB. To be honest if we accept that it isn't BloodFox then it's just as likely to actually be DGB since there's no guarantee that we even have a roleblocker on the town side.

The problem is mastin did make a good argument on BloodFox's tone.

But your posts now are reassuring me again on you.

Magic no wait UDFK

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09-17-2013 , 05:26 PM

#3990

chrja

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Originally Posted by Athexx

I don't get this, its a language thing. Could you elaborate.

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09-17-2013 , 05:27 PM

#3991

marvellosity

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Originally Posted by chrja

After Fool had claimed and lynched a mafia, he was at his high point.

Surely that was the time, if any ever, to try to secure a lynch on a townie.

As you point out, Fool would get more & more suspicious by virtue of being alive, so surely it must make sense for him to use the time he has most credit (directly after the claim) to secure a lynch on a townie? That makes sense by far the most out of anything wouldn't you say

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09-17-2013 , 05:32 PM

#3992

chrja

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Not to sound like the biggest douchebag ever.

But yes, assuming Foolish was a good wolf.

The problem is foolish wasn't capable to lead a lynch even after he claimed seer and got a teammate lynched. That day he had 10 post in total

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09-17-2013 , 05:33 PM

#3993

chrja

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to elaborate.

It comes down to, did foolish believe he was a good wolf, and that he would be abel to control the lynch?

Somebody that knows him better then me should try to answer that question.

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09-17-2013 , 05:34 PM

#3994

marvellosity

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why not use any of those 10 posts to push a townie

doesn't make sense to me. arg. perhaps he didn't feel like he needed to lead a lynch day 4 because the thread already wanted to lynch BF and he was happy with that

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09-17-2013 , 05:34 PM

#3995

marvellosity

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well I know Foolishness best, but I hard-defended him day 2, so....... yea

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09-17-2013 , 05:35 PM

#3996

marvellosity

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I would say that Foolish is an intelligent guy and he "knows" how to play the game

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09-17-2013 , 05:37 PM

#3997

chrja

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Originally Posted by marvellosity

Would people listen to him, if it wasn't a peek? (I probably wouldn't have)
And did he expect people to listen to him?

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09-17-2013 , 05:40 PM

#3998

chrja

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I feel like going out of this path makes it a level game where we try to figure out if he would bus or not in that situation.

And i don't really know him enough to make that assessment, so if you know him well i will trust you on it.