Great SK play Tokyo

Bobo and Mrs Jonny D were good kills unlikely to be others’ targets or angeled

And you weren’t on our radar until n3, when it didn’t matter

And then you got a wolf on your way out, too

my DM's are open *wink wink*

Thanks mods! I'm glad you enjoyed my raptor!

grats woofs, yall were tough to figure out... late game felt like it came so fast

Post mortem I was writing as we went along.

First two days went about as well as the wolves could hope for. 9 villas dead, including their vig, angel, RB, and backup seer. Brought the game from 19 to 7 to 1 all the way to 10 to 7 to 1. A legit shot to sweep the game in day 3. The SK was going for UTR villas. So, although the SK started the game soft aligned with the village, it was in the SK's best interest to keep going after UTR villas (they were less likely to be protected or NKd).

Day 3/Night 3 was a disaster for us. Coordi was lynched, bringing the game to 10 to 6 to 1. Not the best scenario. But we had 3 kills and the SK had 1. There was no angel. So there was still an outside shot that we'd win outright. If the SK shot a villager and all of our kills went through, we win. After a seer hunt, we decided to NK tokyo, vig kill books, and JOAT kill biggerboat.

Almost everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Instead of going the safe route and killing a safe villager, Tokyo goes for wolfbro cracked quads. Our vig kill books is jailed, meaning that not only does the vig not go through, it clears a villager (kukra). The only good news was that we got the seer. But even that went as badly as possible, as he had two living village peeks.

Instead of being an outright win at best or must lynch with little information for the villas as an average scenario, the village goes into day 4 with 3 cleared players and a mislynch in hand.

We purposely didn't submit one of our NKs with the hope that someone claims to RB a villager and we can hammer. But the RB claim was by a known villager, so that didn't work either

So everyone (on both sides) goes into shutdown mode as everyone knows the next three shuns and the next 3 NKs. Still not a disaster for us, as at least Atak, Felix, and Kruze are potential mislynches. And Nich is considered clear. Why? I don't know. As I said in wolfchat, if anyone else in POG does nothing but analyze the state of the game, it's a wolf tell. But with Nich, it clears him.

Thing is, Nich did almost nothing that was misleading. The only thing was his D2 wagon analysis, where he assumes that he's a villager. No one called him out on that. But he uses that fact to try to clear me.

Sorry for the semi blinders my man. GG. We did have some moments where I had you as villa but I was so often wrong this game it was hard to trust my gut

Oh yeah, ykw did win second place in the character post contest

We never did resolve that as a group even tho it was mentioned a few times

Interestingly enough, that was not the case.

So he did peek dmk/coordi?

Hint to future villager me: A long post trying to find seer peeks should be given zero village points. Wolves need to find the seer's peeks just as much as the village does.

yep

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Good post mortem, gus

I disagree on n3 being a disaster tho

We got the seer and that sealed the game for us unless they binked hard


The village didn’t do a good job of seer cover; Tokyo and bigger were the only possible seers; I think that’s because no n0 peek so people forgot

were votes not locked?

Yep

We didn’t care who his village peeks were, we just wanted consensus on them so we could move them into the cleared bucket, NK them and move on

no problem gg man, you at least could see a world where I was a villager, I should have tried to win/enter more events to try to get some mechanical way to help clear me

at the end I was still torn on a lot of players, I had atakdog as wolfy and I couldn't shake that, I wasn't really reading Nich villa or wolfy but I did think he was overly focused on mechanics/serial killer for a villa but when I brought that up nobody really seemed to think much of it

gus I had as wolfy, but when I read his posts I saw some villageryness so I kept going back and forth on him in my head...

aaronk56 i had as a pretty strong villa lean, would've been hard to convince me otherwise

kind of luckboxed the YouKnowWho eod vote, I was also torn on him but I kinda just went with my gut and pulled the trigger, I should have tried to make a better case on him rather than just a vote but others were reading him wolfy too so I just kinda hoped magic would happen and felix would be able to get voters off him, I was reallllly close to voting felix and had a vote for him bolded and almost hit send but I was like nahhh /close tab try again

I, VR, don't like locked votes at must-shun unless it is a game with voting powers. There were none in this game.

What I don't like is villagers trying to trick wolves into attempting to pile on by voting and then quickly unvoting. So in my finals, votes are not locked, but once a vote is cast the voter can only CHANGE to another vote, they can not regress to voting for nobody.

gg thanks for modding

Gg everyone! Congrats to the wolves and thanks to KM and VR for modding!!

and I don't do this often, but maybe I should just play for 1 hour every game and peace out, seems to help my reads :P

yeah, we noticed that in wolfchat. Scary.

Ya pretty fun sweat to just have it look like river was going to be the runaway mislynch then binkles come in and within an hour peg a bunch of wolves lol. Luckily for us it was a little too late for the village to change course.

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GG all and congrats to wolves on not blowing that 28-3 lead . Props to Nich in particular (though most of the wolves get a meh for such low posting).

I did follow along after my victory and feel bad for the village. They were dealt a rough hand with basically 6 UTR wolves and a ton of unlucky night kills early. I don't fault either of the riverfish or Felix shuns based on game flow, riverfish was wrong on everything and Felix with that god awful shortline vote and didn't do much to redeem himself. But shoot, both of them (and binkies) were so villagery their final days. Kruze was definitely gonna get shunned though at some point in any event, so maybe it was a lost cause haha.

Really funny that the wolves shot at me n3. VR/KM can you shine a light on the mechanics that night? I know there were questions in the thread (including by me haha) whether the SK could die to vig/JOAT, or whether he/she was immune to ALL wolf kills at night. I wonder if my kill just processed first so I "won" and they subsequently missed, or if I survived because they couldn't kill me anyway.

If the latter, I wonder whether the wolves would have "outed" me the next day or done anything with that info.

You did a really good job of convincing me you were a villa for subbing in for someone who I had spent all weekend convincing myself was a wolf. I even reread that eod today to try to seek wisdom from the dead (you dmk kukra and books lol) but couldn’t quite pull the trigger on the right people. Gg man

Would have been real interesting had we given you another day

Also, in case anyone cares about the SK kill logic

n1 - bobo - normally, this is standard...

n2 - mrs. j - felt bad about this, but needed someone who was super low% to be NK'd. I initially had sun tzu in here, but felt like he might be somebody important given his shun-boner for dustin so I changed.

n3 - i despise extremely low posters because it's kind of an angle to just give no info, and crackedquads I was pretty sure was a wolf and an extreme low poster, so this was perfect. Plus there was a chance there might not be a n4 if i was wrong!

FWIW, if I was alive n4 for some reason, I was shooting YKW for the same reasons as crackedquads. Who knows if it would have changed things

We had to peek you to make you lose; couldn’t kill you any night

We tried to NK you bc it looked like you peeked Aaron and bigger villagers and nobody else other than bigger was a seer possibility

And sorry to shortline, but man you were so angry/emo day 2. It wasn't the JDalla stuff why I kept on you, it was the reaction!

FWIW, I was being totally honest n2 when I was saying the way it was playing out like 20 minutes from EOD that shorty was acting super villagery finally. I even had coordi in my quick reply at 8:57pm, but thought I couldn't risk being wrong just because of my role. If I was village, I'm changing the vote there at the end.

So I don't remember playing much with you back in the day outside of turbos, but I wanna say your effort was great and I was so hoping you were a wolf bc you were being such a good villager that it would be an all time swerve if you were a wolf. Props.

Ah, so I guess my strategy of going full pro-village d2/3 was probably best. Who did gus wolf seer peek as SK?