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Pappas believes Reid/Kyl bill is written, waiting for the right time/vehicle Pappas believes Reid/Kyl bill is written, waiting for the right time/vehicle

07-26-2012 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt
I'm pretty sure that lilprog actually meant implementation. Going on language from past efforts, we could be looking at anything from 6 to 18 months, but keep in mind that this is just my personal SWAG.
Yes but im not asking about when we get to play, but rather when us facing sites could get shut down by this..
07-26-2012 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
champagne will keep till january anyway, if you're not richard lewis.
07-26-2012 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt
LOL SA, how do you know this random ****? I had to Google that to see what the hell you were talking about, and...yeah, that's awesome.
john hodgman said it best in a response to a letter from a fan in his book more information than you require.

"Q: you have accomplished so much. more than any man has a right to. and yet, you have every right to. i am in awe, and i marvel at everything you have achieved. i am writing to ask you... how? how did you actually do it?

A: it’s quite simple, really, and you can do it too. first, i studied the mistakes others made before me. the lessons i learned from other successful people in my field were obvious: never work for anyone else, own the product of your own labor, do something that no one else is doing, and never use snakes.

next, i was patient. i spent years working a desk job, learning the business inside and out, watching carefully, keeping my head down. but after hours, when everyone went home, i stayed behind, and i worked... ON MY MACHINE.

next i got together a group of specialists, the best in their fields. a team that would inspire me and challenge me to do better.. and when possible i collected their DNA. now it’s not legal for me to say “genetic experimentation”, but let’s just say that within 7 years i’d assembled a crack team of physically and mentally perfect assistants, none of whom had any genitals. and, i continued to perfect MY MACHINE.

after that it was just a matter of blinding the guards with a flash grenade, and disabling the electric eyes with electric eye paste. because the frenchman thought i was dead, i knew they wouldn’t be expecting a tunneler, but that’s just what they got. by the time i was inside i was half dead and completely covered in mud; but that was the plan. the mud defeated the heat sensors, and the half-death defeated the half-life sensors.

in two days, i was able to move again, and i crawled across the floor. it took me all morning just to reach the control panel, and that’s when i deployed the snakes --yes, i know, i broke my own rule. unfortunately, old habits are hard to break, especially the snake habit.

but when the guards rappelled down from the ceiling and began horse-tazering me, i still managed to laugh, because across town, my machine was already doing its thing. and the truth was, i’d already taken the item three days earlier when i just walked in, nice as you please. because you see, the frenchman was me all along, and that horse-tazered body that crawled in that night? well, let’s just say it didn’t have any genitals. none at all. because by then i was long gone. and that’s how i did it. and you know what? i don’t have any regrets."
07-26-2012 , 11:23 AM
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has scheduled a crucial procedural vote that could determine the fate of cybersecurity legislation in the upper chamber. The test vote is set up for Friday on Sen. Joe Lieberman’s (I-Conn.) cybersecurity bill, but an aide for Reid said Republicans will likely yield back time for the vote to take place on Thursday." -- Link
07-26-2012 , 12:07 PM
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07-26-2012 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggger5x
But whether Reid Kyl think it's smart to make this a pre election issue I am not sure. I think this is a VERY suitable vehicle given the concessions that have been made to make sure it passes.

Karak will give a better take than me tho and I'm sure he is more pessimistic on chances.
The election is going to be close, very close.

Oddly, even if only say 250K of poker players vote based on an Ipoker bill or one blocked by the GOP it spells doom for them.

OTOH, if Kyl pushes one through with a tough crackdown on non-poker betting he may be able to get the GOP and Romney to no along, that way they can try to court the Poker Players vote.

Give you something they took away and make you feel good about it.....

Lame Duck session is a loser, nothing to gain there for the GOP, it is literally now or never (or sometime pre-election).

obg
07-26-2012 , 04:01 PM
tomorrow it is, then.
07-26-2012 , 04:13 PM
"Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) told PI this morning that he believes the online gaming bill has about a 60-to-40 percent chance of passing before the end of the year. "It's not a slam dunk, but it's viable," he said."
07-26-2012 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kowboys4
"Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) told PI this morning that he believes the online gaming bill has about a 60-to-40 percent chance of passing before the end of the year. "It's not a slam dunk, but it's viable," he said."
http://www.politico.com/politicoinfl...luence312.html
07-26-2012 , 07:03 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-in-84-11-vote

"The motion to proceed to the Cybersecurity Act was approved 84-11 after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) agreed to an open amendment process. "
07-26-2012 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scratchy1
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-in-84-11-vote

"The motion to proceed to the Cybersecurity Act was approved 84-11 after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) agreed to an open amendment process. "
Interesting.
07-26-2012 , 07:41 PM
you just saying interesting right there is pretty interesting.
07-26-2012 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scratchy1
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-in-84-11-vote

"The motion to proceed to the Cybersecurity Act was approved 84-11 after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) agreed to an open amendment process. "
Anyone care to explain what this means to us? Sorry I'm politically ******ed
07-26-2012 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oldbookguy
The election is going to be close, very close.

Oddly, even if only say 250K of poker players vote based on an Ipoker bill or one blocked by the GOP it spells doom for them.

OTOH, if Kyl pushes one through with a tough crackdown on non-poker betting he may be able to get the GOP and Romney to no along, that way they can try to court the Poker Players vote.

Give you something they took away and make you feel good about it.....

Lame Duck session is a loser, nothing to gain there for the GOP, it is literally now or never (or sometime pre-election).

obg
So you think it's cyber bill or nothing this year?
07-26-2012 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
So you think it's cyber bill or nothing this year?
My Opinion Only

Not necessarily that bill but it is the closest related, but before the election IMO.

And not just "this year" but any unless the money really steps up.

This is not about we players though it is we players who pushed everyone and raised holy *&*(.

We are no longer important to the process UNLESS nothing happens (blocked by the GOP) and we raise holy &*#% and vote enmass against them even when faced with some democratic opposition to our cause.

It is the GOP who has blocking I-Gaming as part of the party platform.

obg
07-26-2012 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scratchy1
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-in-84-11-vote

"The motion to proceed to the Cybersecurity Act was approved 84-11 after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) agreed to an open amendment process. "
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Originally Posted by Roush97
Anyone care to explain what this means to us? Sorry I'm politically ******ed
+1

Could someone explain the open amendment process.I assume it means the bill can be modified later(adding ipoker)?
07-26-2012 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oldbookguy
My Opinion Only

We are no longer important to the process UNLESS nothing happens (blocked by the GOP) and we raise holy &*#% and vote enmass against them even when faced with some democratic opposition to our cause.

It is the GOP who has blocking I-Gaming as part of the party platform.

obg

Keep in mind the overwhelming majority of political people who have vocally taken a stand in support of poker are on the right.
07-26-2012 , 10:44 PM
why is lame duck a loser?
07-26-2012 , 10:51 PM
“There’s plenty of room for changes,” Reid said on the floor Thursday. “Let’s have as many amendments as people feel appropriate.”

07-27-2012 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by glenrice1
Keep in mind the overwhelming majority of political people who have vocally taken a stand in support of poker are on the right.
Really? I have been at this since before UIGEA.....maybe you need to look-up TE'S congressional ratings report card.

There are many now (not an overwhelming majority of our supporters nor even a minor majority), BUT, and a big but, they are working for a maybe poker carve-out in axchange for a greater crackdown on all other online activities; bingo, sports, slots,......

obg
07-27-2012 , 12:18 AM
yes i have also been following this for years, it is clearly the gop who is trying to block internet gambling.
07-27-2012 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by glenrice1
Keep in mind the overwhelming majority of political people who have vocally taken a stand in support of poker are on the right.
Some of the loudest no doubt, but quite a few Dems are in favor of it because of the added revenue.
07-27-2012 , 02:04 PM
Tribes want in on Internet gambling

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Reid, the Senate majority leader from Nevada, reportedly has reached an agreement with Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., on a gaming bill framework and is looking for speedy passage. Capitol Hill and lobbying sources said Reid found little support for attaching the bill to pending legislation regarding computer security standards and ditched the idea.
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"I'll put it on something," Reid said. "If we get some Republicans, we can do it a lot of different ways."
07-27-2012 , 02:23 PM
From the same article:

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Capitol Hill and lobbying sources said Reid found little support for attaching the bill to pending legislation regarding computer security standards and ditched the idea.
What legislation are they talking about? Please don't be Cybersecurity....
07-27-2012 , 02:23 PM
Obviously wasn't going to happen with this bill, but a real punchers chance in the lame duck IMO

      
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