Again, I don't want to be overly negative. Just trying to give my perspective. And I so hope I'm wrong....

Sure, it can get attached with enough support. Even assuming that's the case (which is debatable), the question that I usually end up at is it enough a priority for supporters to push though the procedural cost (in time/days/weeks) that it would take and/or cause.

Given there are 3 weeks (4 absolute max) left after this one (next week is Thanksgiving) before they shut it down for the year, I just don't see it being that type of priority when it causes a big stir (and it will, regardless of what Kyl does) and considering what's left to do prior to end of the year.

Pre-2012 just isn't feasible.

This needs some love. (Bet Spencer Bachus would be looking for a few of those IPO shares, too.)

well lets hope they don't fix that insider trading rule until the poker thing goes through.

Haha. I was thinking the same thing.

The article says that there is a 50% chance it is passed by Congress by the end of the year. I'll give anyone 2-1 on up to $100k that it doesn't. PM me if you're interested.

Ah can I get a ONE TIME!

True. There will be plenty for all of us to do if legislation passes. We'll want to push opt-out states to opt in, as well as seeking better tax treatment.

PPA sent out an alert on this a couple of weeks ago. Here's the Kentucky version:

When's the latest Reid could introduce this bill for it to have a chance to pass this year?

well, out last real shot, last year, we got this thread on dec 2. so last time it was about 4 weeks.

and last year, these things were being said:

12/30. There is no ticking legislative clock for this year, so bills won't die if they don't pass before the year is out. The current Congressional session doesn't end until 12/31/2012, at which point any bills that have not passed will be dead.

So he could introduce the bill on 12/30/11 and it could pass on 12/31/11?

So basically he better get it done by the end of this month otherwise nothing will get passed till 2012?

i mean if we've got newspaper sources saying these things, three hearings in a month, and a caesars IPO upcoming, we all know we're in attachment season. personally, i expect to see some leaked wording in 2-3 weeks, and a teeth-grinding sweat on everything that is voted on till they break for xmas.

but i'm just a guy on the internet with an opinion, and nothing better to do than type away. type type type. things things things. poker.

Lol this is awesome.

But yeah all we can do is speculate until further details come out. Personally I'm hopeful. Everything is moving in a good direction at least.

Hopefully we will have a better idea tomorrow. It's hard for me not to think the recent hearings are not somehow connected to Senate discussions.

Technically, yes, though that would never happen in reality.

I have no idea what the average time is for a bill to go from draft to law.

What I meant earlier is that the arrival of 2012 doesn't affect any bills that were introduced in 2011, because the Congressional calendar doesn't end until 12/31/2012.

It looks like UIGEA was introduced in the Senate on September 29 and passed on September 30, so yes, I think that's in the cards. The only question is are they on recess at that time?

Are we there yet ?

I feel I have to say this guys. Let's not forget that Kyl is a member of the super committee and while all signs point to failure, the thing isn't dead yet. Politics are very unpredictable and the committee may still get something together in the next 5 days. Crazier things have happened.



I'm just saying.

Very true, sluggger.

Remember back in '06, a big percentage of the people on these boards, as well as a big percentage of political pundits, were saying that UIGEA passage was a long shot at best.

FWIW, I've never thought that anything would come of the Supercommittee until the very last second. Neither side is going move until they have to. It's like that homework assignment that you have two months to complete, but don't even start until two nights before it's due.

I remember reading all of this 5 years ago but I can't find the archived posts to them. Do you know how to find them? It would be sort of fun to compare it to present day.

Yep.

(Remember that gaming lawyer dude's tweet -- I'm waiting patiently.)

No idea about politics, but just because it's not in the news, doesn't mean nothing's happening.

I was thinking, it'd be soooooo much better if the regulation was passed through the committee - the static it would create would be the greatest advert for iPoker.

You don't get it... He was bribed to attach UIGEA and now bribed again to attach bill to legalize.