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12-07-2014 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
My post had a purpose and was not an attack on religion per se. Its purpose was to dispel the silly notion put forth by another poster that Huckabee was a reasonable man. The truth is he is a very irrational man. I could care less what he does in his personal life. But the reality is these views and bizarre mindset not only give a window into what you are dealing with mentally, but they dominantly shape his politics and agendas. That makes it absolutely germane when evaluating him with regards to this and or any other issue. I apologize if that offends you.
I wrote in one of my facebook posts that I previously thought him to be an honest and reasonable man. This is not true. I actually don't believe my statement at all, but made it to seem respectful and play to his viewers' emotions.
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12-07-2014 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
If Reid slips RAWA in at the 11th hour, the other gaming companies need to pour money into his opponent's campaign.
Unless they think his opponent could get RAWA repealed, I'm not sure how likely this would be to happen.

If Reid slips this in without a poker carveout, it would be pretty much game over. Not sure why so many poker players are nonchalant about this whole thing. I'm glad everyone ITT is standing up to this, but it's baffling to me.
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12-08-2014 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Unless they think his opponent could get RAWA repealed, I'm not sure how likely this would be to happen.

If Reid slips this in without a poker carveout, it would be pretty much game over. Not sure why so many poker players are nonchalant about this whole thing. I'm glad everyone ITT is standing up to this, but it's baffling to me.
As I said after the mid-terms a message of "fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo that isn't very good" is not much of a rallying cry. It's difficult to stay motivated when the reward is likely no regulated poker in your state. Over the short term victory and defeat look exactly the same for 46 states, right?

Unfortunately I don't have a solution to make this seem any better.
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12-08-2014 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMickHead
As I said after the mid-terms a message of "fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo that isn't very good" is not much of a rallying cry. It's difficult to stay motivated when the reward is likely no regulated poker in your state. Over the short term victory and defeat look exactly the same for 46 states, right?

Unfortunately I don't have a solution to make this seem any better.
The push isn't to keep the status quo. The push is to bring more states in, and eventually get them linked together. There is always a possibility of linking with offshore sites down the road as well. The more activism we have, the more we can seek.

A problem we always had was people with an expectation of getting pre-UIGEA online poker back, to the point where's they'd sit back and insult PPA and talk people out of taking action. The US political landscape was never set up for that, at least not without a super-dedicated fight back like what gun owners do, and more recently what we see from marijuana and gay rights advocates. These groups never gave up because it was too hard. They fought back even harder. I know we all can do so too.
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12-08-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
The push isn't to keep the status quo. The push is to bring more states in, and eventually get them linked together. There is always a possibility of linking with offshore sites down the road as well. The more activism we have, the more we can seek.

A problem we always had was people with an expectation of getting pre-UIGEA online poker back, to the point where's they'd sit back and insult PPA and talk people out of taking action. The US political landscape was never set up for that, at least not without a super-dedicated fight back like what gun owners do, and more recently what we see from marijuana and gay rights advocates. These groups never gave up because it was too hard. They fought back even harder. I know we all can do so too.
Well I guess I'm calling state by state the status quo. For the vast majority of the country that means no online poker. I mean I'm in Texas and I think it will be decades before the legislature would move on online poker. So, I'm basically fighting for an ideal. That's still worth fighting for IMO, but I understand why others wouldn't care enough.
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12-08-2014 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMickHead
Well I guess I'm calling state by state the status quo. For the vast majority of the country that means no online poker. I mean I'm in Texas and I think it will be decades before the legislature would move on online poker. So, I'm basically fighting for an ideal. That's still worth fighting for IMO, but I understand why others wouldn't care enough.
Yep - that's the issue for a lot of us. It's hard to get motivated about something that will not directly impact you for a minimum of 5-10 years, if not the rest of your life. If there were inklings of possibilities of federal regulation rather than this state by state situation it'd be easier to rustle up some interest/support. As is, other than if you live in maybe 5-7 states, you're looking at an incredibly long timeline to devote any time to.

Seeing where we're at now, if we could go back in time to 2011 pre-black Friday, I think you'd see a lot more support among players. Obviously hindsight is 20-20.
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12-08-2014 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DrMickHead
Well I guess I'm calling state by state the status quo. For the vast majority of the country that means no online poker. I mean I'm in Texas and I think it will be decades before the legislature would move on online poker. So, I'm basically fighting for an ideal. That's still worth fighting for IMO, but I understand why others wouldn't care enough.
It could pass in Texas quickly if the majority of Texans were persuaded to support it. That will take lots of work, not less. Yes, I understand some are discouraged, but that's the nature of the fight. We are underdogs.
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12-08-2014 , 06:17 PM
Reports are coming in suggesting that House Majority Leader John Boehner has rebuffed Sheldon Adelson's push to move RAWA in the lame duck. We can't let up until the lame duck session is over, but this is terrific news. Assuming it holds up, we'll have held on by the slimmest of margins. In other words, every voice was needed and every effort counted!
- http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines...ernet-gambling

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Five sources on Capitol Hill and in the gaming industry said today they had knowledge that House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, has turned thumbs down on provisions sought by Adelson to reinstate a policy making it illegal to gamble using Internet technology.

But several other sources said it appeared the issue remains unresolved. Some cautioned anything still could happen during the hectic final days of the post-election lame duck session that could be completed by the end of the week.
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12-08-2014 , 11:42 PM
On tonight's Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny webcast, former Rep. Jon Porter (R-NV) estimated RAWA's current lame duck chances at 50/50.
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12-10-2014 , 02:59 AM
Ok. So a spending bill passed on Tuesday. Was Adelson's measure included?
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12-10-2014 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Unless they think his opponent could get RAWA repealed, I'm not sure how likely this would be to happen.

If Reid slips this in without a poker carveout, it would be pretty much game over. Not sure why so many poker players are nonchalant about this whole thing. I'm glad everyone ITT is standing up to this, but it's baffling to me.
I doubt the average recreational player has a clue about whats going on with RAWA, and this Lame Duck Session, and its relevance to online poker.
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12-10-2014 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Ok. So a spending bill passed on Tuesday. Was Adelson's measure included?
Nope:

Online gaming ban omitted from government spending bill
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12-10-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
I doubt the average recreational player has a clue about whats going on with RAWA, and this Lame Duck Session, and its relevance to online poker.
True. I was referring to active 2+2 posters and anyone else who keeps up enough o know what's going on but who doesn't care enough to do anything about it.
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12-10-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Ok. So a spending bill passed on Tuesday. Was Adelson's measure included?
We dodged a major bullet.
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12-10-2014 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Ok. So a spending bill passed on Tuesday. Was Adelson's measure included?
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
But they did include an increase in campaign contribution limits, so Adelson will be able to give even more to his friends because the problem with political campaigns is, you know, there's not enough money involved.
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12-15-2014 , 07:36 PM
Getting back on track, we need to remain vigilant against Adelson.
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12-16-2014 , 02:33 AM
Could someone please ban the troll so we can get this thread back on track please.
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12-16-2014 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dabrian 2.0
Could someone please ban the troll so we can get this thread back on track please.
+1
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12-16-2014 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dabrian 2.0
Could someone please ban the troll so we can get this thread back on track please.
I have moved the derail discussion to its own thread:
Opinion: The vendetta against Adelson is ill-conceived.

Keep that discussion over there. Any further posts made in this thread for that discussion will be deleted and possibly infracted.
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12-18-2014 , 02:52 PM
Very complementary op-ed to PPA and efforts of action plan and the grassroots effort of poker players. https://cei.org/blog/besting-billion...ernet-gambling
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01-02-2015 , 05:21 PM
Sheldon Adelson is sincere. However, it is NOT about the moral high ground, but only the profit monopolistic high ground.

And he is concerned about protection and safety, but not for people playing online poker in throughout this land of the US, but only for his own empire servicing patrons playing poker (among other games) in this country called Las Vegas Sands and/or on the mobile platform of it therein.

Outside of any of this reality, the rest is simply just a joke. That is where the politicians come in.
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01-03-2015 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dabrian 2.0
Could someone please ban the troll so we can get this thread back on track please.
+1
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01-05-2015 , 11:43 AM
The Republicans take the reigns of the whole Congress tomorrow so be vigilant and be active.
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01-05-2015 , 02:23 PM
I asked this awhile ago on here and never got an answer.
What's McConnell's position on internet poker and the pending legislation? I'm sure someone out there knows more than I do about this.
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01-05-2015 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
I asked this awhile ago on here and never got an answer.
What's McConnell's position on internet poker and the pending legislation? I'm sure someone out there knows more than I do about this.
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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell would likely oppose any legislation that included (a ban on online betting on) horse racing, which is a key industry in his home state of Kentucky. A spokesman for McConnell said he had not seen the legislation.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...ng-104825.html
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