I don't understand this at all. Why give up all that business? Do we expect epassporte to give a statement? Why now? Is this in anticipation of the regs?

Excuse me, jmakin, but you really ARE whistling past the graveyard. My OP was dead on and based upon a better source than a CS rep for epassporte.

Care to re-evaluate ? Notice that sites are removing epassporte from their options ? THAT seem like a technical issue to you ?

Fair enough.

However, there WAS a notice from ePassporte sent out yesterday afternoon.

Also, other sites are removing epassporte as an option, not just Cake.

I have a current pending deposit from my checking account to my epassporte account. Is there any way I can cancel this? I do not want my funds stuck in epassporte like in the neteller fiasco.

Notice to whom? If you saw the notice can you post it?

If I recall correctly- Last night AP and UB had Epass removed completely from the cashout drop down, but now it's listed again...

Milton why would epassporte say it was technical issues, and deny any statements to the poker sites? It doesnt make any sense at all. Neteller never denied anything, other poker sites never denied moving away from United States customers. Theres no need to deny anything here by the company. What would be the point.

The email you received says that epassporte is not an option at cake. It doesnt say for how long, or that they never will again. Unless you have a source at epassporte in upper management where these kinds of decisions are made, then your statements are incomplete, and you know nothing more than the rest of us.

Obviously something is wrong, but to say epassporte is definetly not servicing poker sites for U.S. customers is very wrong, unless you have a source in epassporte that makes that exact decision.

That email you received from cake is not explaining everything. I think cake got a call or an email from epassporte saying, "hey look, were down right now for transactions due to technical issues so inform your customers they cant use epassporte" I think cake then wrote that email to its customers.

just withdrew with epass atm card and worked. 5:00am PST. I feel better now that my epass account has no balance, lets see what develops next. Keeping this money for a live roll, worse comes to worse we'll all be B&M pros.

Epassporte ATM withdrawal still good for me as of 8:15AM est. Glad I'm out.

I had struggles yesterday night paying a bill with my epassporte card, so I decided to go to the ATM and try and cashout and I successfully took out $300 + $2 fees. This was at 7pm eastern, so I would encourage others to at least try to cashout...maybe I was fortunate to cashout before it was shut down, but that $300 is nothing in compared to what i'm losing. I'm disappointed that my suspicions about this site were confirmed. My intention is not to scare other players, but who is to say this cannot happen to your bankroll on say full tilt or pokerstars??? These sites are aware that this shut down only further alienates players from playing. I doubt i'm the only one who had to deal with the neteller struggles as well???

The point is that I do not feel my money is safe, and i'm struggling to find someone who can guarantee that my money is.

Well, note that your money on Epassporte is still probably safe.

Youre problems paying the bill (i would guess with the virtual card) were due to the fact that the Epass virtual visa doesnt support AVS, visa's address verification service. Some places wont accept it because of that. Some places will authorize the funds then refuse to accept it in which case youre screwed because it takes them 30 days to free up again. However, this has always been the case.

All, take a minute out of this therapy session and take some action here!

Send the form letter (email) on the link below to you U.S. Congressman.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=176793

Seriously, it only takes 60 seconds thanks to the Engineer and the PPA.

This is critical as Barney Frank and Ron Paul will be pushing for support next week to repeal the UIGEA.

Is time something we can afford to be wasting? From what it sounds like, people can take money out right now. Worst case scenario, you have your money in your hand and you can redeposit if this was just heresay...money in my hands is about the only sure thing I got anymore in this f'd up world.

Keeping your money in epassporte on the assumption that this story is untrue is a gamble, plain and simple.

I paid this same bill last month, and the month before

Spoke to the cashiers at UB and AP, both of them stated it was based on Epassporte technical issues. I never saw UB or AP remove Epassporte from their deposit/withdraw options last night, and Epasseporte was still there as of this morning.

By all means get your money off, but this may be over blown.

From Cake Poker ...

To all Cake Poker Customers:

We have received notice from ePassporte today that they are unable to continue to provide CakePoker with merchant e-wallet services. We have since confirmed that this situation is not unique to CakePoker and is, in fact, industry wide.

Damn it, people, when will you realize that pasting this into the thread for the 28756258756827956879246895625th time does not tell us more than what we already know?

Possible. I cant imagine what sort of technical issue could cause them to completely shut down but still allow their ATMs to work nationwide...

I further believe that stars knew it was coming, and I use the fact that they put up a reload bonus just before this - to lock up as much cash as possible - as evidence. Add in the cake email...

Thanks for stopping by. This was so much more useful than those dastardly Cake email posts! Good work, man!

you guys are all killing me.

the sky is NOT falling even though it feels like it. are you so short-minded that you cant remember the UIGEA and NetTeller fiascos? they got resolved, and we...eventually...got our money back. geez.

epass IS pulling out. period. all you optimists can put the Kool-Aid down for a minute and wake up. they are not having technical issues, and the US government is NOT necessarily behind this one. no epass executives have been arrested. US DOJ has NOT seized/frozen funds. you will get your money. stop panicking! epass, apparently (and i use the term loosely) just "discovered" that their clientelle was using their site for gambling transactions. so, epass is voluntarily shutting down in the US. there was an article up the other day, sorry i have no link i didnt think much of it at the time, that stated the USDOJ was having trouble enforcing the law. at the time, i took it to mean the games were opening back up again. oh well. BUT, they must be having a hard time with enforcement. if you remember, this forum and others were saying that would be the biggest problem with the law...the day after it passed. it was unenforcable and borderline unconstitutional.

your money is most likely safe on the poker sites, too. pull your money off epass, if you wish and if you dont use it for other stuff.

i know for some of you its a lot of money, but, in the long run, you didnt lose a penny when this happened just a couple years ago. and, you wont this time, either.

please use the wisdom i hope you gained from the last time to help you this time. if we dont learn from our experiences, history is doomed to repeat itself.

thats the biggest problem i have with the US gov't, too.

QFT

I just withdrew 1k from Epassporte into my checking account today with the same 3$ fee.

It'll just be 50$ wire transfers for me now.

fish dont use epass, they use echecks

Epassporte was pulled off AP as a deposit and withdrawal option last night but is back now if that means anything. You get the "technical problems" message that you've gotten on Stars from the beginning.

FYP

God bless those 18% interest rates and stupid people.

btw, good to hear about AP coming back on. we'll see how long that lasts. [thought]i wonder how short my window is to get the rest off of epass and into a site instead of my checking account where the wife will donate it to the American economy instead...and faster?[/thought]