I had several relationships during my career as a poker pro, and they ended all due to other issues. Also these women had various opinions about poker in general.
Some pro some cons. When talking to women because I picked them up for one night stands, I also got various reactions from skeptical to admiration.

In general I would say that a man should never approach a woman with a provider attitude. I always approach them by seducing them and go from there and see if I really want to be with her in the long-term. And my job couldn't be more irrelevant when doing this.
In this case it is even more beneficial than not, because I regard being a poker pro as one of the most awesome, free, selfempowering and owning things one can do.
In one sentence: A real poker pro is a f.kn BOSS.

If one is in provider mode, he will just lose. She will be gone, once your resources are empty, or someone else with better resources appears.

Women with some gold-digger, and traumatized exception usually don't care what you are doing!!!
All they care about is:

1. Do you provide them with dominant positive emotions?
2. Are you a leader of your club/tribe/pack or a mysterious wolve?
3. Can you take care of yourself?


All the others will have the same needs but mixed with some kind of fetish or trauma.
So for example some women will be drawn toward toxic men due to their childhood experience, or just look for bodybuilders, but these are not the masses.

If people think that their job has any influence on being good with women, then they are really living under a stone.

All that matters is what you think of yourself.

Magrail
I think you are completely by from your pickup artist philosophy here be ause to are talking pure Mystery doctrine. The Input of original ideas would be much appreciated.

I see this problem as the untrue idea that Poker is not gambling. If you are a pro poker player you are a pro gambler ,you just like it easy. The women are bucking on this contradiction.

Hey Hrafn,

thx for the reply. I think Mystery is great and his principles still hold even today, although I believe a mix of various ideas is key. Some RSD and also psychology.

Mystery is a guy that would say, that people have to man the f.k up and get their s.h1t together.
In case of being a poker player that means to handle it like a professional.

Tyler of RSD would probably say, that nothing really matters except your identity.
Now for a good functioning relationship, I believe both is true but Mystery would get the advantage here.
One has to man up, do stuff professionally and then there isn't an issue with women at all.
And results would proof it if she is sceptical.

Your own thoughts about what you do for a living will shine through and she will pick up on that.
If one thinks that poker is just gambling then she will feel it and one should not play poker anyway and pretend to play for a living.
Hope this helps

And btw. I am only talking live poker.
I am a big supporter of online poker is rigged.
If one has a winning account it is nice, but it will only last so long, except one is a streamer or coaching site owner etc that are affiliates of the rooms.

thx for the input.

when poker was my only career a lot of girls found it hot when I told them I was a pro player, but I had already bought a house from poker then
girls still find it more interesting now than my regular career (software)
it only got the ????? look when I was like 21-22
dating sucks for all guys at that age
I know cause I'm mid 30s now and date 21-22 year olds
don't ever lie about what you do. trying to LARP as a "risk analyst" or whatever and you look at colored rectangles and move colored circles around for a living should make any girl dump you out of self respect lol

I haven't done much dating in the past couple years that I've been playing professionally. One doesn't have to do with the other, that's just how it's played out.

If you're just looking to hook up or something casual then say whatever BS comes to mind. If you're with someone and are looking for more of a serious thing then I don't think it's ever a good idea to start a relationship with a lie about something as relevant as your career.

I will say that in all my non-dating interactions like Dr. Appts or any other day to day interactions where your occupation is asked, needed or discussed, I NEVER say I'm a poker player. They either look at your like you're crazy (personally I don't care about that), or even worse they want to ask the same dumb questions I've heard a thousand times before. I have no desire to explain myself or how I make a living to every random that asks, even if it truly comes from a place of honest curiosity. I always just say I'm an independent contractor, and if pushed further I give the vague answer of "general contracting".

Be candid and open about it and all the brutal reality which comes with it.

It’s not all too different to them dating a streamer or a musician just less cooler I guess

Imho, a lot of poker players are dishonest naturally and tend to be bad at communication skills which is mainly the reasons why they struggle to date or marry off of the felt. If you act with integrity on and off the felt and you talk to your partner clearly (as you should) then it should be fine.

Especially nowadays, people understand doing jobs which are risky or side gigs that border on gambling mainly because of how the economy currently is.

It might be a hot take to say that I know but frankly it’s the conclusion I’ve come to from talking to a lot of poker players in my time.

To me it is much like game selection, yes the general public offering might think that is an unsafe means but how many normal men play poker that much

For the most part women don't care about how much money you make as long as you have enough money to enjoy your life. I know plenty of guys who are bar porters or even bus boys who date hot women. And don't get me wrong there are gold diggers out there however, they have much bigger fish to fry.

If you believe that what you are doing is cool. If you believe that what you are doing has a future then women will fall into that frame if they are genuinely attracted to you.

Just 3B Fold

It all depends on what stakes you play

They must be very conventionally attractive then, because women don't date down unless there's something in the man to compensate for his lower financial status, which is typically looks.

I think it depends on the country. Where I live (southern Europe), playing poker is frowned upon. I try to hide that from women I'm interested in.

However on my trip to Australia girls loved the fact I'm playing poker seen me as exciting.

I totally disagree with that. I'm sure some women feel that way but money and looks are way overated when it comes to dating. Women are emotionally driven. If you are providing good emotions for her then she will get attracted regardless of looks or money. Trust me. I am broke and ugly and date plenty of hot women.

tell everyone that you are an investor, you will not be lying as long as you really have some money invested in something (stocks, crypto, etc).
and if ppl want to know more about you just tell everyone that you study the market and buy/sell stocks when necessary.

shipping industry

Women will never understand something ultra competitive and somewhat risky like playing poker. They are programmed just to look for signals like potential earnings, poker is an extremely risky thing they have no clue how to evaluate unlike 'he is an attorney we are getting serious lol' or 'he is in med school we get along so well lol' .

STFU when it comes to poker. Say you are in an international shipping equity analyst, whatever, never mention cards, poker, casino, gambling, or anything like that.

cum laude

I just don’t get it. Be in “the west” with the radical feminism, constant swiping and praying on tinder for a 6 at best, the only fans and all the trash that comes with it. Or go to Thailand or Vietnam and get the most beautiful sexy women you can imagine. And no, you don’t have to pay for it. And no you won’t be judged for being a poker player.


Lol just love it!!!!

Honestly Gl to all

Yeah I get you. Most people just don’t really ‘get’ poker, so it turns into awkward convos. I usually just frame it as working in finance/gaming if I don’t feel like explaining, but honestly being upfront saves headaches in the long run.

Personally, I am only still learning poker , but I highly doubt it is the main thing stopping you from dating. I have been broke living in my parents basement while still being successful at dating. Matter of fact that's hi I lost my virginity. I think a lot of dating issues come down to one main parameter: does she like you or not?

If she likes you she will accept a lot of crap from you

If she doesn't like you then you have to be almost perfect just to keep her around, hence having to lie about your profession and things like that.

Tricky part is : how do you get her to like you?
There is an emotional progression you can get any woman to go through, by the time you're done with the progression she has usually grown an attachment to you .

Then it's similar to poker, the higher the stakes the lower is her inclination to take the risk of losing you .

I wouldn't have a problem telling a woman if I was a pro. To be a professional poker player, you're already kind of saying **** society's norms. Any intelligent woman of sufficient age could probably relate to some degree. A lack of security would probably be the main objection, but the way the labor market is now, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of "sure things" anymore. So if you're able to develop a skill well enough to pay your life expenses, then you are likely resourceful enough to develop other skills in case poker doesn't work out for whatever reason. Is being resourceful not attractive? It all depends on how you look at things. On the other side, there's the Joan Rivers karen-type who trash things that they know nothing about (aka NPC mongoloids). Either way, you probably wouldn't want to date someone without some critical thinking skills (or at least I wouldn't).

I work with computers

Unless you are a big winner don't tell them you play poker.

If you want a gold digger for a night them you won big. Shag em