Grunched, but 0% chance of this ever happening.

Frist, a Rep., got this anti-poker garbage into a must pass bill. Reid, a Dem could have stop it but decided not to. When the Dems. had the legislative power to help us, they refused to. Kyl, a Rep., is our biggest legislative opponent, right now. We had serious problems with GW. Bush's DoJ. Our problems with Obama's DoJ are far more serious.

We can expect help from both Dems. and Reps. Barney Franks, a Dem, is our most important ally.

This is not a Dem. versus Rep. issue. We have serious enemies in both parties, Kyl and Obama are on the top of list. We need help from both parties. God Bless Barney Franks.

The difference between online poker and MMJ are the relationship between the state and federal laws. Online poker is definitely illegal in many states, but probably legal under federal laws. MMJ is definitely legal in many states, but definitely illegal under federal laws.

Ordering the DOJ not to raid MMJ facilities is deferring to the states' wishes; ordering the DOJ not to raid online poker establishments is going against the states' wishes.

Furthermore, let's not forget that PS/FT aren't being arrested on charges of offering online poker. They're being arrested on charges of bank fraud and money laundering, which are serious charges and is definitely against the law on both the state and federal level.

There will be (or can be) a differentiation at some point between charges which require a predicate offense to be proven - for example, violating the UIGEA rests on the activity being illegal gambling - and charges with no predicate offense required, such as bank fraud. That is, you can be convicted of bank fraud even if online poker is determined to be legal, but you can't be convicted of UIGEA offenses if online poker is determined to be legal.

So, yeah, basically, cliffs: No, Obama can't wave this away with an Executive Order. Nor will the Supreme Court suddenly deciding online poker is legal on a federal level clear PS/FT of all charges.

First of all,...it aint gonna happen. But at this point even if some miracle or some Supreme Court ruling should occur, PS and FT and online poker in general has been tremendously harmed. PS has pretty much refunded all US players accounts. For them to just try to reinstate "the good old days" they would probably file a lawsuit seeking compensation for monetary and libelous reputation damages which would probably take years to resolve

The OP question remains. But it not longer matters. Obama's DoJ is out to finish us off.

He did with EPA rules/decision/potential lawsuits. He did with campaign ads rules. He did it with the DoJ's action on the Defense of Marriage Act.

The difference being, Obama does not support us and will not help.
Obama is no Barney Frank. Obama may be a Frist;he just may not care.

May also be helping out a dear friend in a position of the power in the Senate....

I'm unfamiliar with all three of these. How do the Executive Orders parallel a hypothetical Executive Order on online poker?

I do not know about the EPA deal or campaign ad but the DOMA he ordered the DoJ not to defend it, not enforce it, they are and will.

It is a court case in NY where it is being challenged on a specific point they are not going to contest / defend is all.

The only other parallel is medical pot, no pot arrests as long as state law is followed, but if not then even in states where it is legal they will still arrest / enforce pot laws.

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Socialists... lol, what is wrong with some people. Any US party is pretty right wing compared to European political parties, and interestingly online poker is actually allowed in Europe (which is heavily socialist-democratic).

Choose a Republican for president next time, so that your school teachers can carry guns to shoot back at your next school shooting (which is probably right around the corner). A gun and a lawyer for everyone would be ensured with a Republican president, so you can choose whether to shoot or sue your fellow man (or preferably both, in any which order you like).

Oh, but Republicans are opposed to online poker anyway?

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lol, the funny thing is, if this were true, Harrahs would already have a poker website, with a multinational player pool.

what if he did it in his 2nd term, without having to worry about reelection?

Obama's gonna issue the executive order right before he goes out, so he can ball outta control on Harrahs.com after he's done with the White House. I hear he's a pretty solid 10/20 NLHE HU player.

I'm pretty sure there was an article that ran during the 2008 election cycle in which Obama was described as a nit / TAGfish. I doubt he's playing NLHE HU.

If online poker is ever legalized while Obama is in office, I'm rushing to sign up as BO.renegade or something like that.

Actually, this is rignt. I had a socialist friend of mine suprise me by saying he is against gambling. His reason made sense, or at least went along with his belief. They believe gambling is bad for the collective. I.e. your individual rights are taken because something is viewed as being a harmful to the collective.