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11-11-2011 , 06:02 PM

#76

sluggger5x

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Former Rep. Joe Porter (R) from Nevada shares his optimism on federally regulated internet poker here: http://soundcloud.com/pokerati/us-on...ming-law-2011#

He seems to think normal passage is very unlikely but that ipoker will find an omnibus bill. He says that Reid is "the champion" but needs some help to get things done. He also says Jon Kyl is doing "everything he can to help us."

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11-11-2011 , 07:00 PM

#77

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Former Rep. Joe Porter (R) from Nevada shares his optimism on federally regulated internet poker here: http://soundcloud.com/pokerati/us-on...ming-law-2011#

He seems to think normal passage is very unlikely but that ipoker will find an omnibus bill. He says that Reid is "the champion" but needs some help to get things done. He also says Jon Kyl is doing "everything he can to help us."

Okay. Wow.

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11-11-2011 , 07:05 PM

#78

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So are there two hearings on the 18th, or is there only one but to two different Subcommittees?

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11-11-2011 , 07:06 PM

#79

LT22

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Originally Posted by Go Get It

So are there two hearings on the 18th, or is there only one but to two different Subcommittees?

1 hearing in the Senate Indian Affairs on Nov 17th

1 hearing in the Subcommittee on Nov 18th (same subcommittee as previous hearing, thus the term second hearing)

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11-11-2011 , 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Former Rep. Joe Porter (R) from Nevada shares his optimism on federally regulated internet poker here: http://soundcloud.com/pokerati/us-on...ming-law-2011#

Thanks for posting this. Sounds like he's reasonably optimistic, which is nice.

Of course I found myslf getting super cheesed off listening to him talk about how the American people have little problem with gambling and how there's a lot of support for igaming, and how it will probably get done as long as all the interested parties get their cut. It's sickening to listen to him talking about how American gamblers will be paying all sorts of people to be able to gamble online, when online gaming should be almost free to play (especially for games that aren't poker and have no overhead to prevent cheating). It's funny how open everyone can be about the corruption that goes on. Ha ha ha.

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11-11-2011 , 08:54 PM

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Is there a list of witnesses in second subcommittee hearing yet?

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11-12-2011 , 12:51 AM

#82

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Originally Posted by Curtlow

Is there a list of witnesses in second subcommittee hearing yet?

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11-12-2011 , 01:31 AM

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future harry reid: 'oh, it looks like congress is really interested in this online poker thing, you know it just so happens i have this aga-approved bill here.. maybe we should get this lots-of-jobs-creating program running asap'

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11-12-2011 , 07:24 AM

#84

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Originally Posted by Curtlow

Is there a list of witnesses in second subcommittee hearing yet?

No.
http://energycommerce.house.gov/hear...px?NewsID=9088

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11-15-2011 , 03:52 AM

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Rich Muny

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+1 the tireless effort of TheEngineer should be admired, thanks for the efforts and keep it up if you can.

I appreciate that. Thanks!

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11-15-2011 , 04:03 AM

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AGAupdate American Gaming Assn
The AGA’s Frank Fahrenkopf WILL testify at this Friday’s House subcommittee hearing on Internet gambling. We'll live tweet from the scene.

https://twitter.com/#!/AGAupdate

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11-15-2011 , 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LT22

This is an awesome witness for us now that the AGA is 100% pushing iPoker.

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11-15-2011 , 12:06 PM

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MIGHT be able to go to this one too depending on how my week shakes out. I anticipate Fahrenkopf being very affective.

Anyone else in DC for this that wants to grab lunch can PM me. Would love to meet some of y'all IRL.

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11-15-2011 , 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

I exactly what 'doing everything he can to help us' means

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11-15-2011 , 03:45 PM

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[1 of 2] N.H. Lottery Director Charlie McIntyre, AGA president Frank Fahrenkopf and Mark Lipparelli of the Nevada Gaming Control Board

[2 of 2] ... will be among witnesses for Friday's House subcommittee hearing on #Internet #poker regulation, #lobbying source told me.

https://twitter.com/#!/CKrafcik

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11-15-2011 , 03:50 PM

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TBadr

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^ add to that

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Reps. Frank Wolf, R-Va., and John Campbell, R-Calif., will also testify at Friday's congressional hearing on #Internet #poker regulation.

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11-15-2011 , 03:57 PM

#92

sluggger5x

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Fahrenkopf, Lipparelli, and Campbell are going to be huge for us.

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11-15-2011 , 04:26 PM

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Rich Muny

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Frank Wolf on the gaming issue, from his website: http://wolf.house.gov/index.cfm?sect...tiontree=7,204

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Gambling

Only 30 years ago, gambling was illegal in most states and was generally considered to be a vice contrary to the American work ethic. Serious gamblers had to travel to Nevada to visit a casino and the states had not yet plunged into lottery mania. Today, there are more than 800 casinos operating in 28 states. The lottery is played in 37 states, plus the District of Columbia, and all but two states -- Hawaii and Utah -- have legalized some form of gambling.

Gambling expansion has swept the nation, with revenues jumping from about $1 billion in 1980 to well over $50 billion today. That means Americans lose on average over $137 million every day of the year from gambling.

What has the spread of gambling meant for this country?

Some 15.4 million Americans suffer from problem or pathological gambling. The National Academies of Science found that pathological gamblers engage in destructive behaviors. They commit crimes. They run up large debts. They damage relationships with family and friends. They commit suicide.

Youth introduced to gambling are particularly at high risk. Of the over 15 million people with gambling disorders, over half of them are adolescents.

The National Gambling Commission, which I pushed Congress to establish, estimated that direct gambling costs borne by the government are about $6 billion per year. That does not count the indirect costs of compulsive gamblers, such as divorce and the breakup of families. Then add the human misery quotient creates a vicious cycle as the need for social services dramatically increases. Small business is also a loser as consumer spending shifts away from goods and services.

The political process also can be tainted. In state after state, the gambling industry bankrolls local politicians from both parties in hopes of advancing its interests, leaving opponents out-financed, out-gunned and out-manned. The fact that gambling has not spread further is a tribute to the tireless efforts of a few grassroots activists. These citizens advocacy efforts -- often outspent by rates of 20 to 1 -- have held the levy against even further encroachment by the gambling industry into every community in America.

On the federal level, a measure introduced in the House to close the loophole which allows betting on college sports in Nevada is on hold indefinitely, even though most people, including the bill's opponents, know it would pass overwhelmingly if it were brought before the House.

The NCAA, almost every university with an athletic program and current and retired revered coaches such as Joe Paterno, Lou Holtz, Bobby Bowden and Mike Krzyzewski all support the bill. The lone opposition comes from the gambling industry.

In 2006, the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) was signed into law. This landmark legislation helps to cut off the flow of revenue to unlawful Internet gambling businesses. It outlaws receipt of checks, credit card charges, electronic funds transfers, and the like by such businesses. To do this, it enlists the assistance of banks, credit card issuers and other payment system participants to help stem the flow of gambling dollars.

This is about knowing all of the hard evidence about the byproducts of gambling – crime, corruption, family breakdown, suicide, bankruptcy – and not hearing our country's leaders speaking out.

Where are the political leaders from both sides of the aisle? Religious leaders? Advocates for children, the poor and the elderly? Their silence is deafening.

It is time for Americans leaders to step forward and address the proliferation of gambling.

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11-15-2011 , 04:32 PM

#94

LastLife

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I'm glad he is part of the 2nd hearing. We already got the "people are going to do it anyway" statements into the record.

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11-15-2011 , 04:33 PM

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LT22

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he looks like a real winner :rollseyes:

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11-15-2011 , 04:38 PM

#96

CountingMyOuts

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Wolf using Joe Paterno's name in his anti-gambling rant. NH sir

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11-15-2011 , 05:57 PM

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Rich Muny

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Let's all tell Rep. Wolf what we think of his comments: http://www.facebook.com/RepFrankWolf...15267418541386

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11-15-2011 , 06:49 PM

#98

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Still no actual poker experts announced as witnesses?

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11-16-2011 , 03:36 AM

#99

MillimeterPeter

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Will this be streamed?

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11-16-2011 , 11:35 AM

#100

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Originally Posted by schlucky1

Still no actual poker experts announced as witnesses?

This is the list of witnesses...

http://energycommerce.house.gov/hear...px?NewsID=9088

November 18, 2011

The Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing, and Trade has scheduled a hearing on Friday, November 18, 2011, at 9:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled “Internet Gaming: Regulating in an Online World.”

Background Memo

Witness List

Panel I

The Honorable Frank Wolf
U.S. House of Representatives

The Honorable John Campbell
U.S. House of Representatives

The Honorable Barney Frank
U.S. House of Representatives

Panel II

Mark Lipparelli
Chairman
Nevada Gaming Control Board

Charles McIntyre
Executive Director
New Hampshire Lottery Commission

Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr.
President and CEO
American Gaming Association

Dr. Rachel A. Volberg
Senior Research Scientist
NORC at the University of Chicago

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