Throughout Israel's entire history they have been oppressing the Palestinian people further and further while taking more and more of their land, creating apartheid-like conditions. They deserve the same international condemnation that South Africa faced.

But forget about all those non-Israel Middle Eastern parties who have not faced opprobrium and international sanction. (I assume you mean parties like Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. about whom the international community has been virtually silent.) What about the League of Nations, UN, Russia, Poland, Britain and all the countries in Europe and America who refused to take in Jews fleeing the Nazis, and just shipped off the Jewish problem to this magical land without people in the Middle East? They're the ones really to blame for this mess. Israel is just a convenient scapegoat.

come on greg, don't help spread the cancer that is politardinoma

For all I know, OP was 100% correct in some of his points - I just don't care for the way he jumps to conclusions.

Yeah, don't worry, it takes about 10 minutes in that thread to start to get a feel for the biases present, and to learn that only a small percentage of the content is solid material. But that still leaves a good amount of interesting information, and then there's the entertainment factor. You also learn quite a bit about a few 2+2 posters.

Niss, that's why politics threads shouldn't be allowed in ATF. I mean, I literally spit my coffee out when I read that Israel has been singled out compared to any other party in the Middle East, unless he's referring to http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../usvetoes.html

So I am basically right. This is what a "menguele" is.

Given the torrents of evidence we get daily about crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Israeli Defence Forces, such as these, these , these , and these, and the total lack of respect for the life of palestinianas israeli army, politicians, and a big part of the general israeli public has displayed in the recent past, Deuces' analogy is not unwarranted and not antisemitic in nature as it focus in behavior and not inherent racial traits.

Meanwhile, we get tons of other posters in this forum implying that all palestinians are terrorists, that they deserve to be wiped out of the earth, etc etc, without any repercussion. That is a blatant double standard.

lol no, just no. That kind of bull**** laughably plays down the horrors of Mengele.

Nuke this thread or move it to unchained so we can make fun of op.

"Palestinians are just being shelled, killed, mutilated, starved, made homeless, left without medical care, etc., that's just laughable compared to other 'real' crimes against humanity".

Mengele performed sick ****ing experiments on people and was part of an attempt to completely destroy any race that wasn't his own. What you describe is the awful but common horrors of war. You can compare Israelis to Mengele when they start throwing kids into gas chambers after performing experimental amputations. Until then, you should shut the **** up.

What you describe is the awful but common horrors of war.

Theft and murder is also common and it is also illegal and immoral. The actions described above are illegal under international law. Targeting doctors and paramedics: illegal. Targeting Fleeing civilians: illegal. Targeting human shelters: illegal. Imposing a blockade on the territory of other people: illegal. Starving the people of ocuppied territories: illegal. Collective punishment: illegal.

Now you please stfu.

I'm not a mod of ATF or anything but I don't think you can get in trouble for making fun of OP here.

I can't wait for Deuces to come back and explain who this ****** going to bat for him is

Yes?

Go on...

The funny thing is, that would mean to mock my rather conservative stance on this issue (as it amounts to defense of basic human rights of palestinians and respect of international law). Given this forum is US based and the culture of racial tolerance is rather strongly encouraged, openly atacking this would be still strongly frowned upon, therefore people would have to resort to shooting the messenger or backhanded attacks (example of this is the ban of DM or the name calling starting to occur in this thread).

Anyway, I won't respond to name calling and other juvenile attacks (spouted by grown ass men which makes it even more sad), as that would benefit those who want to block debate on this issue.

And last but not least, it obvious DM ban should be lifted asap, as it is an example of censoring the pro palestinian rights side of the deabte.

Oh come on, we all know you will you big Nazi!

Using a nazi reference is not only bad posting 101 it is also unnecessarily hurtful in context.

Seems plain( to me)that making shocking analogies and false equivalents that are commonly found to be patently offensive does not serve the interests of peace or justice for the innocents that are suffering.


As I recall, this is not the first time Deuces has tried to use nazi analogies to describe the behaviors and consequences of Israeli policy concerning Palestine. It's on him for choosing to repeat that behavior.

Oh come on! I said "big" to make it cutesy like "you big 'ol softy!"

This makes absolutely zero sense. We get it, war and such is bad. That's not the bar you've created. You need to be the level of bad reached by Mengele, which is so far above and beyond anything Israel has done the only explanation involves a mixture of Antisemitism and complete ****ing idiocy.

That's why Deuces was banned, and it's why you'll be banned without a thought if you make the same comparison in the politics forum.

I believe DM point was to show how little do Israeli governmen't, military and majority of public care about the life of palestinians. The nazi analogy is valid, because they had relatively the same amount of regard for the life of the jews in Germany and occupied countries.

Therefore DM's ban is wrong and unfair and should be lifted asap.

Too bad you aren't a math Nazi

Do you even know what the nazi's did? Because it seems like you don't.

Did thekid325 get banned or something?

Ethnic cleansing which is frighteningly close to what israel is doing now in palestine, on a lesser scale, which doesn't make it any less unacceptable.

Scale is kind of important here, and again, nothing like mengele is happening. Antisemitic idiot you are. Post these theories in politics proper please, you shouldn't be posting in this forum.