dominos makes no guarantees just like carbon and their MTT's

lol that ad is awesome,I have a Dominos down the street from my house and yes the ad made me go there well it persuaded me with the help of my friend Mary Jane but great advertisement either way

I like the questions OP. Gotta bring the hammer down sometimes, nice guys finish last u know. Better question is whats up with Juicy Stakes Poker owned by Lock Poker who owns some space on this site. THEY EVEN WORSE THEN CARBON

When a company offers to provide a service for players, its not the players problem to worry about cashouts. They take the money in 1 sec and then wait 3 or more months to pay, **** aint right. If you cant cash people out at a timely manner then dont promote that you can. All over their sites say say 10-15 day, which is nowheres near true. I found them through links from here. So some would say 2 plus 2 led me to these sites since i got there from links on their pages...

Its just not right that you guys promote these sites to Americans after what they are doing. These questions need to be answered.

WTF is this ****? It's about as accurate as can be, unless you want a tracking device cooked into your pizza.

re :Id like to hear this questions answered

Nah, I never put a dollar on that site. Black Chip ftw, with zero issues, EVER.

I just think this thread has really good issues that should be addressed

In the internet poker thread a lot of people have been getting checks processed/sent, check the carbon withdrawal thread. sucks if you have a lot of $, gl.

but ditto on everything you've posted, i feel like people in the poker community have no responsibility when they take sponsorships etc. why are some regularly known players (mizrachi, obrestad, weisner) taking sponsorships on lock, when they know its not a reputable site and is very shady? too much greed, not enough responsibility

I would like to hear these questions answered.

Since when does the acceptance of advertising dollars equate an endorsement from the an ad medium? 2p2 has removed ads in the past when things appeared shady, but that still does not imply an endorsement while an advert is active IMO.

Do you own homework and take some responsibility for your own decisions.

This is just the state of poker in the US right now. There are no verifiably safe poker real money poker operations. You can demand answers if you want, but the situation is complicated and I doubt ANYONE has a handle on what's going on and what the future will hold. You can't hold these business to the same standards as you would Stars because it's a different environment. I doubt the people at Merge and Revolution have a clue what's going to happen RE: poker in the US.

Is twoplustwo a regulatory agency? I don't think they are. Just because people communicate about issues concerning online poker does not mean that the forum has a responsibility to do thus and so with respect problem resolution in online poker. This is a medium of communication and thus only indirectly affects online sites.

Get it through you head OP: you CHOOSE to play poker in an unregulated environment and you must live with the consequences of that decision. Without government regulation you ultimately have NO ONE to turn to if things go bad. It's up to you to decide who you are going to trust once you make the decision to go into what is basically, at this point, an underworld of U.S. online poker. The only thing that matters is rep. If a site has a bad rep in your estimation, don't play there. Don't look for any quasi regulatory function from the media to compensate your questionable judgement.
You want to go outside the reservation? This is what it's like. You don't like it? Get a job and vote democrat in the mean time so maybe they can change it.

i inquired about this from dominos one day because according to the tracker my pizza had been out for delivery for 30-40 mins. they told me basically its a gimmick and is an estimate. you really think they are gonna sit there and punch a button that they made, cooked, boxed, and delivered your pizza?

so don't think just because you saw something on the internet its true....

You are missing the point completely. I'm not blaming Mason for Carbon being shady.

I understand and accept the risk of having $ on Carbon.

The point is this: It is unethical to profit from a shady site when you have every reason to expect they are shady.

At this point, it is pretty obvious that Carbon doesn't have enough $ to meet current withdrawal demand. Nobody would be surprised to find out Carbon is using player money to pay its bills, including bills for ad space on 2+2.

Mason won't be to blame if Carbon goes under and robs us like FTP and AP/UB. However, the fact that 2+2 allows Carbon to advertise on its website is shady as hell.

are you profiting when you play on carbon?

link?

Very much this.

How lock still has a forum here with all the shady stuff they've done over the years is pretty baffling considering how well 2+2 has dealt with most of the other shadiness in online poker.

Go play devil's advocate with someone else.

Follow the Carbon withdrawal thread to see all of the problems.

you play on carbon. carbon advertises on 2p2. you post on 2p2. whos the hypocrite?

I'm not sure if you are serious. What you wrote isn't even logical.

You are an american. There was a murder in Chicago. Chicago is in America just like you. Are you a murderer?

I have to assume you are trolling.

I am a poker player. As a poker player I have be scammed and robbed by shaddy sites. Along the way various pros/sponsors/ect have profited from the rake I paid. I have lost all of my FTP roll. I also lost money I had on UB/AP.

I don't understand how any poker player would think they way you do.

I am not making money from Carbon. I am paying Carbon a HUGE portion of my winnings in the form of rake. Carbon has made a CRAP ton of money off of me.

I have to assume you are trolling. Nobody who played on Carbon or lost significant money to FTP could share your view point

Have a nice day.

View: you are mad

Yes. I think most players who won $$ from online sites but have been unable to collect are mad.

View: You are a losing player.

View: you are even madder

this is part of the change that hes doing; its called awareness

Aside from advertisements, 2p2 gives these sites their own space on the forums...

I think this thread should be moved to internet poker personally. You might be able to get some more serious responses op in that subforum instead of sirwish tarding up the thread.

+1, kevmode knows about tarding