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I think if the OTB&C were ramped up significantly from known previously banned users that a decent number would choose to either post better or leave. As it is they're probably peeling off 100+ posts before they get the ax, but if they get nuked every few posts, then some may not want to bother with the hassle of re-registering much more often. As it is in SE there are only a small handful of true loons who go to that trouble, the rest either got better or left.

Basically, NVG is the District 9 of 2+2.

OTB&C? SE?

Translate, please.

Thank you.

Lee

TBH, the best move I can foresee is just having "civilian" mods. People who are appointed by the mods in NVG to simply flag/report posts. They don't have the power of the mods but the influence to make something happen.

Someone like poker edge who frequents High Stakes in NVG more than anyone would be a good candidate. I could help out as well.

One thing I did notice last night (8PM EST) is that when Isildur1 is sleeping/offline the thread has potential.

This might be a little simplistic,

Just split NVG into subforums:
-News
-Views and Gossip

It's not about splitting the forum it's about the High Stakes Thread. The forum sub-section is fine IMO since the mods are on top of moving/locking threads as need be. It's the substance of the posts in the HST which are what ruin the thread.

The thread was made to post HH's and commentary from the regular posters/readers. It's turned into the Official Isildur1 Fan Page. I am surprised there isn't a link on his Facebook page that leads right to NVG.

OTB&C= One Touch Ban and Clean. Mod function where a newer user can be banned an all posts deleted.

SE= Sporting Events forum.

You owe me a dollar.

LOL! Thanks for the translation.

I'll be playing at Caesar's Palace today and tomorrow. Stop by, say hi, and get your $.

Lee

+1, and if the 'civilian mod' thing isn't possible, I'm definitely going to make more effort to report posts anyhow. If lots of us do it and the no-content posters start to get infracted/deleted/banned more and more, maybe the tide will start to turn.

That would seem to be the solution. Aren't we all "civilian mods" in that sense? We can all use the report button. It is up to all of us, when we spot what we deem to be an improper post, to report it.

Lee

When I meant "civilian mods" I meant people who are reputable. In essence everyone could be a civilian mod but since mods are probably busy IRL it becomes tough to monitor 24/7 so input from some "civilian mods" would be good but I could see how it would be bias to an extent.

I think High Stakes thread should be divided to two thread:

High Stakes LC Discussion Thread
- Feel free to post your stupid and worthless opinions about HS games or players!

High Stakes HH Thread
- Only for posting HHs and discussion directly related to hands played

This seems like the only viable option; as it is not to hard to implement.

Although I fear that all the stupid posts will eventually still find there way to the HS HH thread since it's from there that the railbirds can follow the game...

Yeah but then we don't get to talk about general high stakes poker without ******s. The thread concept is fine how it is IMO. We just need to get rid of all the stupid/off topic/hate posts.

Give me the power, and clean up the high stakes thread I shall.

Edit, just watched another 4-5 useless posts in the thread. Someone complaining about there being too many useless posts in the thead when this thread link was just posted. Someone arguing about Blom being better than f/g. Another guy saying blom is down 2.5million. And another post ripping NVGers. WHY DONT THEY STOP?? pwhg[pgrn[rwinog[snb[bn'[obr

NVG HST 2010: 40-50k+ pots, solid discussion, fun times
NVG HST 2011: Every single blind isildur1 has stolen, trolling, trolling and how about trolling some more for $1000 alex.

thanks for bringing this issue up, i spent ages the other night adding these morons to my ignore list.

All of these.


And I think it'd be as easy as just defining what is allowed in the thread and enforcing it. Pots over $10k only. $50/$100+. Substantive discussion regarding hands, information posters of games going on, who's up, who's down, posting hands.

Anyone who posts libel in the thread get snap-banned or whatever the acronymn is. Whether it's to another poster, player, ect.

Also, there's already an Isildur catch all thread, how do we get that to be the main venue to rant about him. I think unless he's play NL10000 (or plo) or higher it should stay out of the thread and given since he reemerged, there's only been 4 times that that's happened (3 challenges and once against jungle).

At the end of the day it's just astonishing that the new posters completely missed the unwritten etiquette of the site. Even as of two years ago, the new players wouldn't dare post in the HSNL thread in the NL forum, they would lurk for months before posting and not get 1000 pots in 3 days, etc. This new bread is literally going to destroy everything attractive about the forums on this sit.

+1 the rules need to be defined and enforced whatever they may be.

What are the procedures for getting these things done? Who is in charge of 2+2? When could we get this done?

Why only 50/100+? 25/50 is still considered high stakes, and let's face it isildur playing 25/50 is some of the most interesting poker that has gone down lately (at least imo, but you can't deny it has obviously gotten the most attention). Also letting people post 25/50 hands when he's playing PLO is ridiculous if you wouldn't let it for NL.

I honestly don't think the stakes should change. If there's a hectic 5/10 hand thats 6000bb deep and ridiculous, who cares if someone posts it, it will be fun to read. Isildur hh's at 25/50 aren't a problem because I'm pretty sure most people like reading them and they won't take up too much space without all the ridiculous discussion.

My vote just goes to essentially ban/delete post/infract anyone who talks about Hastings cheating, Hastings being fat, whether isildur is good or not at poker (I have done this previously, sorry!), 'take meeting' jokes bla bla bla. These posts must take up half the thread when isildur is playing (more when he's playing Hastings). As I said I don't think the main problem is the actual hh content, it's the uncontrollable amount of bs. Posts describing a game, how much someone is up after a certain amount of time etc should all obviously be allowed.

Either way I'll also volunteer to clean it up, I read it pretty regularly and have posted a few hh's etc. I wouldn't mind making it a thread for only 'useful' posts but I think the main priority is the isildur/hastings bullsh4t that just really needs to go.

agree that isil HHs are not the problem and often contain some of the most interesting hands being played today. HH only thread! it will work!

There is a way in the new BB forums to let someone post, but his posts are only visible to himself. Most ******s would take months to notice. Their postcount goes up and they are probably used to no 1 responding to their nonsense.

Please implement this.

I'd very much like to +1 Jamie's post and chinz idea (one thread for hand histories and discussion on hands and one thread for fanboyism and hate). The thread used to be mostly enjoyable and sometimes tilting, now its the other way around.

I doubt it is possible on 2p2, but this would be really really awesome!

Would it be too hard to program a thread tool 'show posts containing converted hhs only'?

maybe as extra enticement to civilian mod duty they could be allowed access to select parts of the mod forum. I think the penis pics thread and Mat's drunken rants containment thread ought to do it.

warning: there is overlap.

+1

Agree with everything in this post. I don't get why Isildur 25/50 HH's should be disallowed in the thread. The swings are bigger in his 25/50 matches than in most other people's 50/100 matches, and the thread would get really empty without it.

Maybe 500/1k cap games between Gus and Urindanger are bigger stakes, but a 25/50 deep stacked match can still be much more interesting to rail and is definitely still high stakes with possible 6 digit swings.