Hi!

One thing i find common among many mods is that they post stuff that sound pretty demeaning at times.
You often dont need to look closely to see various kinds of hidden messages, that would translate into, for example;
how can you not understand this?
how is this not clear to you?
this reasoning is absurd. im right, you are wrong.

Chin up mods, i know the rate of preeminent-sounding posts/mean or rude post are proooobably more frequent by us regular posters, but im of the perception mods should act like good role models.

I'm sure people who dont think twice before posting whatever crap dont intend to screw things up, if someone needs directing why doesnt a pedagogical kind approach seem like a viable option to some? Especially given that they are actually assigned their function much bc of the reason to improve the quality of the forums!

By THIS post, me myself are not trying to come across as the guy on the high horse, my posts are pretty much **** always.

I just think its weird, thats all.

Goodnight!

How can you not understand that accusations as these require the evidence of specific quoted posts.

But in all seriousness, asking unpaid volunteers to constantly be on their best behavior no matter the provocation is probably just little too idealistic. It would be great if everyone on the site (myself included) was always polite, but here on the interwebs of planet Earth, that **** just don't seem likely.

You shouldn't have to be paid to be polite.

Power trippin'

How ironic the biggest offender posts in the thread. Guess he must know

no male mod has posted itt

OP, the mods are superior.

The sooner you realize this the longer you'll last around here.

Yeah im on it. Clicked Bobo Fett > Find more posts by.
Gonna take me a while

I generally like Bobo's posts, when he's snarky the recipient usually deserves it.

Ldo

Sure, in a perfect world, everyone would be polite all the time.

But this world ain't perfect, and neither am I.

I was unaware Professionalpoker was female.

They close to always make me angry. I agree that the recipient probably made a stupid comment in most cases, but i dont think he intended to or did it to piss anyone off.

I dont know why i care really, seems like worrying about mods behaviour is as pointless/whatever as them actually acting cool.

I guess i think being dumb is a smaller offense than finding joy in calling attention to peoples errors & faults.

Because the world is a nasty place does not mean you have to be. No one is asking you to be perfect. But being rude isn't an imperfection. It's a choice.

meh, pretty sure OP posted about "green names" before his edit

Dont agree with this. Its not like you are forced to interact with someone whom you necessarily dont agree with.

This implicates you have options, you can point out your possible inequalities as nice as you can, you can refrain from doing so at all, or you can sound whatever way you feel like sounding that exact time, based on whatever reason.

In my opinion the last mentioned hardly needs to be practiced as a person whose job is partially to improve the forums!

Ah, this is where our opinion differs. Greatly.

Hey, I'm all about being polite.

Convince everyone who PMs me telling me I should kill myself, or that I'm too ugly to **** and should cry myself to sleep every night, to play ball and you'll never hear so much as a sarcastic peep from me ever again.

Plus, I think you'd be surprised how often tone is misinterpreted. I deal with people all the time who act like I'm being the rudest person on earth just because I'm in a position to correct their (often rude) behavior, when all I do is inform them their behavior is inappropriate and ask them to stop.

I think everyone should bear in mind that with nothing more than words on a screen, it can be difficult to interpret the senders full intent.

But w/e, I'm not going to get into a giant debate about this. I agree in principle (everyone should be polite), but in practice, particularly on a testosterone saturated internet website like this, I don't see it happening.

I think most mods are more polite, on average, than the general populace here, AINEC, IMO.

And, actually, mods are forced to interact with people all the time that they don't agree with. That's part of what being a mod is all about; responding to post reports and flame wars.

I was unaware this happened on a regular basis although I suppose it will happen more often to NVG mods than practically any others.

How many of these PMS do you get in an average NVGtarded week?

I mean, I'm not going to reveal any more specifics than I already have (and I've never infracted a user for a rude PM, I just warn them that I CAN infract them for that and they stop), but a really nasty PM is at least once a week. One week it was like 12, another was zero. Depends on how whipped up NVG is about a particular issue.

That sucks that you have to receive those kind of msgs.
I understand that being objective at all times would be a super-hero ability (obv people who face rude comments from mods might not have done anything to deserve it, but i get your point. hard to pick the 2 apart)


On the subject of interpretation, i personally interpret this as you freely interpreting what people say, while it might just have been doubtful case of inappropriate posting.
I mean this clearly goes both ways if thats the case.


I recognize the fact that i probably overlook mod-posts that are sweeter than sugar, but if i were to guess percentual-wise i dont think it would be that big a difference.

What about referring to written T&C, i.e nothing influenced by personal opinion? (on the whole..etc)
The three examples i mentioned in OP dont only apply to rule breaking of the forums, more like the opposite IMO.

Yeah, I know, you were talking about someone just posting something a little oblivious and getting called out for being dumb.

There's pretty much no rule that can't be bent (or broken) depending on the circumstances; TPTB seem to prefer that most stuff is left up to the individual forum mods. So except for death threats and horse porn, almost everything else is probably open to interpretation.

Which makes sense if you think about it. I mean, which posters are trolls? There are some everyone would agree on one way or the other, but there are a lot that some people love and others hate. So even though 2p2 has a general "no trolling" policy, the mods have to use some interpretation in who they apply that to.

And sure, I'm liable to misinterpret someone's post, and have done so before. I also correct the mistake if it resulted in an infraction or something. I think most mods probably take a similar approach.

Hahaha, too funny. I read your OP and thought I'd have to chime in and agree with you, and cite myself as an example, and then I saw ProfessionalPoker's post and was going to let him know I disagreed, but then I see this post of yours and all the wind is taken out of my sails.

Hey, I absolutely agree about some posts from mods, and I'm right there in the muck some of the time. Some days are worse than others, depending on the stupidity I've seen - hey look, I'm already doing it.

I think you'd find quite the change in my posting over the last 5 years. When I started posting here, I bet it was 90% pleasant posts, helping out all the time, rarely bothered by seeing the same silly question for the 100th time. But I've likely become a little jaded over time, and a little tired of people who make so little effort to find answers for themselves, read stickies, or just think a little before posting. There are times where I'm sure I've gone a little too far, and I've apologized for it on occasion.

I doubt mods are alone in this; I think it happens to plenty of posters who have been here for a while. And it's not just on this forum - the Internet in general brings out the worst in people. Most people say a lot of things on the Internet that they would never say face-to-face; I assure you I'm much more pleasant IRL.

Should mods be good role models? In an ideal world, that would be great, absolutely. And I think a lot of them are. I like to think that even I, in spite of liberal doses of sarcasm and sometimes a little snarkiness, and am not all that bad. When's the last time you saw me engage in a personal attack? Probably called a few people trolls, but that's about the only insult slinging you'll see from me. Just like posters, though, every mod is different. Some get right down in the muck, name-calling with everyone else, while others are continually polite, almost to a fault. But on average, I think you'll find mods more helpful than most. Believe it or not, the admins don't try to find the most unhelpful *******s they can.

This is not a problem I have, and I don't understand why any mod would have this problem.