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08-25-2011 , 01:05 AM
I have been a very outspoken critic of the PPA and federal regulation in the forum, and I have been having some issues with the posters and mods there.

The posters continuously call me a troll, call for me to be banned, call for me to be segregated, etc.

The mods infract me because I am critical of the organization they are members of. I was infracted by PokerXanudu for "being vulgar" while not bypassing the filter, and nothing was filtered.

This is the post in question, bolded is the supposedly offending part.

Quote:
Yeah let's just throw everyone under the bus.

You don't think you should be able to play slots or roulette or anything like that online with your money if you want to?

Hey I'm fine with getting rammed, just as long as they give me a little reach around!

I have been saying that this issue is bigger than online poker. Look at all the recent attacks on the internet by the government. Protect IP act, protect children from internet pornographers act, the internet kill switch, the internet ID proposal, on and on and on and on and on.

If we invite the government to regulate the internet in regards to gambling, they will see it as an invite to do many other things. There is absolutely no telling what kind of **** they will come up with next, and the time is now to put a stop to it all.

DEMAND NO MORE ATTACKS ON THE INTERNET!
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...43&postcount=8


I've already spoken with twoplustwo administrators about this, and was told to PM again if I was infracted by him again and felt it was unwarranted.

That has not happened, but now TheEngineer who was formerly very objective and unbiased has taken it upon himself to be the people's champion and come down on me. I was just infracted for posting an "off topic post", but I was responding to someone else's post that was off topic. I bet that person wasn't infracted.

I've just reported a bunch of posts in that forum, and I bet none of those posters were infracted before I reported them, and probably not afterwards either, because I am the scapegoat.

I am being ostracized and I'm raising the issue here.


I have an idea for the forum. I think it should be more balanced in it's mods. As of right now, from what I can tell, all of the active moderators are pro federal regulation. Two of them are even on the PPA, and it just so happens that they are the ones I have been receiving infractions from.
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08-25-2011 , 01:13 AM
bolded is a little offensive.
08-25-2011 , 01:19 AM
Everybody deserves a reach around
08-25-2011 , 01:27 AM
The bolded would clearly be viewed by some as vulgar. Whether it's worth 10 points, I have no idea as I'm not sure what the standard is in PL.

As for the latest infraction you received, it was 1 point.
08-25-2011 , 01:46 AM
1. I do not think your post should be infracted. I think that infraction is rather excessive and I do not think it is offensive.
2. Do you get your reach around?
08-25-2011 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Francis M.H.
Everybody deserves a reach around
08-25-2011 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
The bolded would clearly be viewed by some as vulgar. Whether it's worth 10 points, I have no idea as I'm not sure what the standard is in PL.

As for the latest infraction you received, it was 1 point.

The issue is not a 1 point infraction. The issue is I am being attacked because of my views on federal regulation and criticism of the PPA.

I'm sure you can see all the posts I just reported. Were those posters infracted for them?
08-25-2011 , 02:10 AM
No idea; just making sure all the facts are out there.

But considering your post reports were made less than an hour and a half ago, that wasn't actually a serious question, was it?
08-25-2011 , 02:13 AM
You're not being attacked for anything. Rather, instead of simply posting your thoughts on federal licensing, you instead chose to hijack multiple threads with off-topic, argumentative posts.

You can't attack everyone who posts something about federal legislation.
08-25-2011 , 02:14 AM
yeah that post I was infracted for, I was infracted for off topic posting.

I was responding to this post.


Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDarkElf
I think the flaw with OP's line of thought is simple:



The "only" part is wrong. Problem gambling is actually a relatively small part of the problem.

Far more important is the economics - our corrupt governments has to get every single penny they can out of the gambling business.

Ever notice how gaming taxes keep going up as more states legalize casinos? NV and NJ take less than 10% whereas PA takes 16% from table games and 55% from slots. MA is considering legalizing casinos - the price: 25% for table games and 40% for slots. And at the same time they want out of federal iPoker because it might effect their take in their state lottery.

Bottom line: our government is perfectly content to create problem gamblers so long as they are making an easy buck.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57.../#post28346075

this was my response


Quote:
The taxes and the ability for the government to raise them at will is something the supporters of federal regulation just ignore.

blah blah blah blah hmm hmm hmm hmm, didn't read your post, nothing there. Nothing I say!

Yes, the government would gladly raise taxes on online poker once regulated. Rather than cut spending, or raise income taxes, they'd see online poker as an easy choice for raising taxes. That is why I see the argument of "online poker could be a great revenue source, Uncle Sam" as truly horrific.
I would post the link to the post, but I see now that it's been deleted.

Funny stuff. I asked TheEngineer if the poster I was responding to was infracted for his off topic post, he said no because he didn't have a problem with their post.
08-25-2011 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
You're not being attacked for anything. Rather, instead of simply posting your thoughts on federal licensing, you instead chose to hijack multiple threads with off-topic, argumentative posts.

You can't attack everyone who posts something about federal legislation.

Again, I have been posting my thoughts on federal regulations, and I have been attacking no one.

Instead of moderating in an objective and unbiased manner, and infracting others for off topic posts, you infract me. And people have been attacking me.
08-25-2011 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
As for the latest infraction you received, it was 1 point.
Not only that...it expires tomorrow.
08-25-2011 , 02:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LirvA
Again, I have been posting my thoughts on federal regulations, and I have been attacking no one.

Instead of moderating in an objective and unbiased manner, and infracting others for off topic posts, you infract me. And people have been attacking me.
Posters are attacking you because of your disruptive posting.
08-25-2011 , 02:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Not only that...it expires tomorrow.

Yeah come on, it's just ONE point and it EXPIRES TOMORROW! Just let us attack this guy that's been very critical of us. Come on! Just let us a little bit! We REALLY hate this guy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Posters are attacking you because of your disruptive posting.

It is "disruptive" because they disagree with me, not because it's disruptive. Your infraction illustrates this completely. My post was perfectly acceptable, but you infracted me because you are on the PPA and I have been very critical of the PPA and strongly oppose federal regulation.

If people are going to be infracted for off topic posts, than the poster I was responding to should have been infracted as well, but he wasn't. I wonder why ...

Oh, it's cause of my criticism of the PPA and federal regulation. Yeah, that's it.
08-25-2011 , 02:24 AM
Out of curiosity...

Why the **** do you oppose federal regulation?
08-25-2011 , 02:25 AM
Strawman argument.
08-25-2011 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
Out of curiosity...

Why the **** do you oppose federal regulation?

At the risk of making false assumptions...


Why the **** do you support it?
08-25-2011 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
At the risk of making false assumptions...


Why the **** do you support it?
Because right now there is no online poker and the only way there will be is if Congress passes a bill explicitly legalizing and regulating it.
08-25-2011 , 02:38 AM
The Poker Legislation forum is strongly biased in support of federal regulation, the PPA has mods there, the PPA spams the forum (and other forums) with pro federal regulation threads regularly, and I am one of the few people there who is opposed to federal regulation, and very critical of the PPA. I don't believe there's been a more outspoken critic and opponent in recent times than I. As a result, I am being attacked by the posters and the mods, not because my posts warrant infraction, but because of my outspokenness and criticism. People call me a troll, people call for me to be banned, to be segregated, I am getting unwarranted infractions, and I will NOT be silenced or segregated.

To further illustrate my point, I have created a pole asking simply if people support federal regulation of online poker.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...poker-1088886/

I wonder which is gonna have more votes ...
08-25-2011 , 02:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarchist
Because right now there is no online poker and the only way there will be is if Congress passes a bill explicitly legalizing and regulating it.

This isn't a thread for discussing federal regulation, you can browse the poker legislation forum and find my views.

I will say though that you can play online poker right now, and your statement should better be said "if Congress passes a bill monopolizing poker".
08-25-2011 , 02:42 AM
"monopoly"
08-25-2011 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
Why the **** do you support it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by LirvA
This isn't a thread for discussing federal regulation, you can browse the poker legislation forum and find my views.
wat
08-25-2011 , 02:52 AM
Considering how awful of a poster you've been in ATF, it's not too surprising that people can't tolerate you in other parts of 2p2 either. Maybe the problem is actually just you and not every other person in the world.
08-25-2011 , 02:54 AM
Holy infractions. So many. Perhaps your past has some relationship to your current treatment?
08-25-2011 , 03:14 AM
well which do you want to be- a troll, banned, or segregated?
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