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05-13-2012 , 12:51 PM

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MrWooster

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Everyone who says https is too resource intensive, thats not quite true. Yes, https is more resource intensive than http, and yes, 5 years ago, it was a huge overhead, but now days, https adds a minimum overhead.

There is no reason for https not to be turned on, and not implementing it is a HUGE security floor imo.

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05-13-2012 , 03:19 PM

#27

bav

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Originally Posted by MrWooster

We already know they've been struggling with inadequate capacity (I think I read that somewhere). Dunno where the bottleneck is, however. If they're struggling with the front-end side of it facing the browsers, adding HTTPS may make the situation worse. On the other hand, if they're having backend DB issues, say, they may have gobs of capacity and won't notice the SSL overhead.

But if they hired a super-high-end security firm to come in and make sure everything was safe and secure, you'd kinda think "ENABLE HTTPS!!!" woulda been pretty high on said company's list of recommendations.

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05-13-2012 , 11:04 PM

#28

Neil S

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Cookie sniffing is a big deal. It's not enough just to do https logins, not at all.

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05-13-2012 , 11:46 PM

#29

pvn

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Originally Posted by Neil S

Cookie sniffing is a big deal. It's not enough just to do https logins, not at all.

Cookie sniffing is a big deal but it's a different problem than the problem of stealing passwords.

Implementing full https would be great but doing it just for logins would be better than what we have now and would be a very small increase in resource consumption.

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05-13-2012 , 11:56 PM

#30

Neil S

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Originally Posted by pvn

Is the goal to stop password sniffing or to prevent account hijacks?

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05-15-2012 , 03:30 PM

#31

Count Chocula

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cookie sniffing sounds like a weird fetish.

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05-15-2012 , 08:45 PM

#32

Gin 'n Tonic

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Originally Posted by Count Chocula

Wookie sniffing sounds like a weird fetish.

Fixed.

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05-15-2012 , 09:48 PM

#33

pvn

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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic

Fixed.

wat

Nothing weird about that IMO.

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05-15-2012 , 10:25 PM

#34

Neil S

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I bent my wookiee.

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05-17-2012 , 01:06 PM

#35

Gullanian

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Originally Posted by pvn

Basically impossible/extremely difficult to blanket install https on a website like this that links to so much external content as it will throw up tons of security messages when someone posts an image on a different domain etc.

Doing it on the login/registration pages is a good idea and easy to do though.

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05-17-2012 , 07:26 PM

#36

Neil S

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Originally Posted by Gullanian

Ehh, it's security theater.

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10-22-2015 , 08:16 PM

#37

WowImsobad

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You cannot be serious. How old is this vbulletin software as well? Someone could probably just google a vbulletin exploit and there's a good chance it will work.

Unreal, lol.

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10-22-2015 , 08:40 PM

#38

Randomly Banned.

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You tell 'em.

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10-22-2015 , 09:49 PM

#39

zikzak

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I have been assured that this is nothing to worry about. Also that the sever load for encryption requires more hamsters than 2+2 can afford.

Last edited by zikzak; 10-22-2015 at 09:49 PM. Reason: it's not like the site has ever been hacked or anything

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10-27-2015 , 03:10 AM

#40

FranFran

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I can explain it, it's not actually a porn

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10-27-2015 , 04:37 AM

#41

Mr.mmmKay

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I heard the pas words have been encrypted using a banana and 2 large Chinese vases

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11-03-2015 , 05:15 AM

#42

herbertstemple

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April, 2012.

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11-03-2015 , 06:29 AM

#43

Minirra

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Here's your money back

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11-04-2015 , 02:10 PM

#44

Roonil Wazlib

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why does OP think they use plaintext?

wireshark seems to think my password is 3abaf9cb25496efb9f918ba63135249c, which I assure you it isn't.

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11-04-2015 , 02:43 PM

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Wiki

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Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib

wireshark seems to think my password is 3abaf9cb25496efb9f918ba63135249c, which I assure you it isn't.

Really?

Mine is.

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11-04-2015 , 02:57 PM

#46

Roonil Wazlib

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What a crazy coincidence!

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11-04-2015 , 07:08 PM

#47

zikzak

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Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib

why does OP think they use plaintext?

wireshark seems to think my password is 3abaf9cb25496efb9f918ba63135249c, which I assure you it isn't.

Obviously your password is :ºùË%InûŸ‘‹¦15$œ

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11-04-2015 , 09:28 PM

#48

Roonil Wazlib

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Ssshhhhhhhh

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11-05-2015 , 01:09 AM

#49

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Mine shows

7c6a180b36896a0a8c02787eeafb0e4c

hmmm

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11-09-2015 , 04:15 AM

#50

gvspa

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****ingfd trolle

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