As the ranking non-mod, non-******(imo), regular 4L poster I wanted to bring this up before it becomes a huge issue in the morning.

First, the information.

Second, the disclaimer provided to protect 2+2 posted in any and all threads(including both these threads) regarding gambling on this site.

A 5$ Super Bowl pool was deleted from 4L because the man thought 2 pools were too much to handle. First of all, we're talking about 2 5$ square pools that are being run by 2 very reputable and respected posters. Do you not think a better decision would be to announce that in the future our once a year SB square pool will only be limited to 1 pool instead of making someone refund a bunch of 5$ wagers? It seems like a better decision than totally nuking the almost filled 2nd pool a day before it was filled up. 4L being one of most visited forums on 2+2 means that naturally we are going to have more people wanting in and people were left out of the first one which is why a second pool was made.

You are asking someone to do even more volunteer work than he has already done and actually encouraging more potential headaches and errors in the refund process than if you let the 2nd one continue for this year only.

I ask that you please reconsider your decision and let the 2nd one continue and for our future once a year SB pools we now know only 1(one) will be allowed.

Thank you.

FWIW, this decision was made right at the top.

That's why people shouldn't try to use 2+2 for anything like this. It is not a gambling site.

God?

edited part: Or could Mr. Malmuth not find any nip-slips on his thrice daily visits to 4L and settled on this?

Thank you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTi-EMXoMA#t=1m58s

I know full well our beloved admins don't like being told what to do, but I also know pools have been run in the past across all the forums and I feel killing the 2nd one this year is worse than announcing 1 or none are to be run in the future.

They probably feel 4L will lead to "i got scammed" posts, more often than the 4 pools ($250, $100, $50 and $25) that were set up in MTT Community.

I don't think this is a 4L specific situation.

LetMeLive, who is running the 1st pool, is more than reputable enough to never scam $500. He doesn't need the money, he has proven to be trustworthy while staking, buying pieces, site to site transfers, and sports bets where this is a no brainer that he will pay the winner.

I'm sure the guys running the higher stakes buy ins elsewhere are as trustworthy. The issue has to be the fear that someday, someone who escrows will just run with the money, and 2p2 thinks they will somehow be liable. Which is fine, if that's the case.

But if you shutdown all superbowl squares, which in most cases are a fraction of a percent of a bankroll used just for another sweat, then there a couple things you need to shut down.

All Sports Discussion Threads. lol @ anyone thinking these guys talk about sports.

Site to site transfers thrad in the zoo. If theres a 1% chance of being scammed in the superbowl squares pools, there is a 50% chance of being scammed in the zoo.

Staking forum. Seems like a lot of negative feedback going on in there, people being scammed every week.

x doesn't matter. The site can't be getting involved with deciding who is reputable or not in something like this.

So how do you decide who is reputable enough to become Marketplace approved?

There is no such thing as a reputable poster.

What I'm unclear about is why the disclaimer isn't sufficient for 2 4L pools but is good enough for the hundreds of other monetary transactions that happen weekly on 2+2.

Most people bought 2 squares so we're talking about like 10 bucks here. No one is asking you to guarentee our bets, which is clearly outlined in the disclaimer, and I think anyone who participates in these types of things already knows going in that the posibility of losing our money is a risk.

And again we're talking about something that happens exactly once a year.

In before the usual ending.

i'm shocked to hear there is gambling going on in this establishment

Cool. Making bad arguements, deleting them, and then deleting a logical response.

Look, I know how things work around here with matters like this. You have to make whoever did the action convinced that it's their decision because if you don't they think they're losing their grip. I understand that.

So, for my last post about it, I ask you once again to reconsider deleting our 2nd pool and making it explicit that in the future 1 or none of thse pools be made.

Thank you.

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Just have that little pop up come up like with the transfers thread. I COULD HAVE ONE 1000 DOLLAS!!

kev should of never send anything about a reputable poster , has nothing to do with it

Maybe it has nothing to do with squares, but has everything to do with money changing on hands on twoplustwo.

Every day

Enforcing this on something that is neutral EV is pretty lol concidering other stuff going on on this forum

You're still sort of missing something. The marketplace is not a pool, apples aren't oranges, etc.

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I thought the issue was a liability of money being exchanged on the website between people?

again Kev's info is sort of bad, this real has more to do with the promotion of gambling then money changing hands.
The money changing hands thing is more the icing on the cake

However just so you guys know a lot of us are looking for clarification regarding stuff like the market place and other transactions that go on.