wat

nice story, you really enlightened all of us.

god damn is it so hard to understand

i definitley agree with this, pretty much most solid nitty good regs will most likely run either under ev or just at about at even ev. i think the laggy players tend to run much higher above ev than the normal players,this is what i've seen in plo.your playing style also influences your ev.i have about 35k hands at 50max plo which has me winning like 2k above ev and winning like 9bb/100. this is maybe a small sample in plo. but you dun't need ev to determine if you are a winner in your own game. moral of the story is the nits will always run lower than expected and dun't let the ev graphs affect your game.

bbv obv

Which part of "Hi there Freeroller!" didnt you guys understand ?

omg

and i thought my 6 bi downswing last week was bad, great brag sir. and glad your head is blown to smithereens.

omg wat?dude are u really from amsterdam, i am coming there in november, need your help

If you put it like that-)
Seems very valid indeed.

If 2 players go allin AA vs. KK for 100 dollar stacks.
If AA wins he will be over ev for 40 bucks or so right ? (80% of 200) 160

I am really not good at this tbh but wouldnt the underev thing be more brutal than the over ev thing.
Meaning it will go down faster than it would go up ?
Maybe everything will even out eventually...in that case his graph is even beyond comprehension.-)

lmfao. Definetely this. Wtf @ ZENA the warrior. Who says that shyt?

hahah , lool too at zena the warrior, but i think that show taught me how to speak english, haha. she was **** hot too

Yea because AA doesnt win more than it loses.

God you're stupid :x

Hopefully your 2010 will be 700k?

Dont worry...youll be a veteran pretty soon.

Congratulations for being great at poker and not killing yourself and/or letting your run-bad affect your play. Quite admirable I must say.

A break will probably do you good though, and let's hope you run better next year. Good luck!

within 4 hands of each other, what doesn't kill us...

Full Tilt Poker $12 + $1 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t250 - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t19840 M = 4.67
BTN: t26598 M = 6.26
Hero (SB): t36790 M = 8.66
BB: t8830 M = 2.08
UTG: t25147 M = 5.92

Pre Flop: (t4250) Hero is SB with K K
UTG calls t2000, 2 folds, Hero raises to t5009, BB raises to t8580 all in, UTG calls t6580, Hero raises to t36540 all in, UTG calls t16317 all in

Flop: (t59624) 3 9 7

Turn: (t59624) A

River: (t59624) 4

Final Pot: t59624
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BB shows A Q (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows Q A (a flush, Ace high)
UTG wins t32634
UTG wins t26990




Full Tilt Poker $12 + $1 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1200/t2400 Blinds + t300 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t103870 M = 17.31
MP2: t21548 M = 3.59
CO: t54824 M = 9.14
BTN: t24035 M = 4.01
SB: t17006 M = 2.83
BB: t18390 M = 3.06
Hero (UTG): t10443 M = 1.74
UTG+1: t19884 M = 3.31

Pre Flop: (t6000) Hero is UTG with 9 A
Hero raises to t10143 all in, 1 fold, MP1 calls t10143, 5 folds

Flop: (t26286) 4 8 8

Turn: (t26286) 7

River: (t26286) T

Final Pot: t26286
MP1 shows A 4 (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Hero shows 9 A (a pair of Eights)
MP1 wins t26286

^ Don't clog a decent thread with your crap.

stake and coach me for good karma and happiness IMO

So, life was good till hand 125K and then suddenly babies started wanting to be choked...Sick run for NL, pretty standard for Omaha.

yea the EV thing is obvious.

good players will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS run under EV. getting it good guarantees you will you run under EV, because if you lose AA to KK, omg bad beat but u got it in good so u a good player.

if u win AA vs. kk, well, u shud have won so even EV there.

The EV winrates are pretty sick, so that makes me think that OP might have run much better in the "other luck factors".

All-in EV is one thing, but if you get dealt 10x AA in a row that doesn't change anything to your All-in EV. Yet... You're extremely lucky to have gotten those cards!

Also: say you have QQ, flop comes AQ6, half of the money goes in on the flop, turn... another Q. All the money goes in on the turn and opponent shows AA. All-in EV doesn't show your lucky, yet again... You were extremely lucky.



All-in EV is just one side of the "luck" in poker, if someone has such a high EV winrate I kinda think you got some of that back in the cards you were dealt. Luck evens out in the long run, but it can even out between the other factors of luck, so not showing in graphs.


That's doesn't take away that this graph is extremely sick though and would probably make me go crazy.

holy moly, almost as bad as mine but. I actually started playing like **** at some point b/c anyway I couldn't win a pot after -200 BI below ev, please don't do what I did and take a vacation.

what is going on, aa winning against kk isnt even EV. a good player is not more likely to run below EV.

yeah wtf being good has nothing to do with EV at all

i was leveling if you couldn't tell by the liberal use of "u" and bad spelling :\.

this should be the point of reference for BBV "oh no i am running so bad" posts