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01-06-2011 , 06:41 AM

#1076

Coeckie

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 217

I'm finding it harder and harder to believe this guys isn't just taking down one of the sickest prop bets ever tbh...

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01-06-2011 , 07:05 AM

#1077

chinz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 9,061

How much rakeback is he exactly getting with supernova? He has reached the point where he isn't winning even with 40% rakeback:

Is he looking to be the first person ever(?) to play million tourneys or wtf could be the reason he's doing this?

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01-06-2011 , 07:14 AM

#1078

Widzy

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 290

anyone playing $1 DoNs are bumhunting this guy seeing as he is mass multitabling imo

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01-07-2011 , 01:16 AM

#1079

IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

lol at bumhunting a FR SNG player

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01-07-2011 , 01:34 AM

#1080

SuperDuperDonk

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 647

I think the cars running but theres nobody behind the wheel.How can he continue to do this day in and day out?We should get a board going for the day this waterhead throws in the towel.

Last edited by SuperDuperDonk; 01-07-2011 at 01:36 AM. Reason: he is the true definition of insanity

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01-07-2011 , 05:49 AM

#1081

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

are you sure that he is no bot?

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01-07-2011 , 06:18 AM

#1082

dybboss

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,514

well, i can understand something :d guy has played most hands per month, most hands per year, most tourneys per year, he is going to be the first to play 1mln sngs and probably the only one for at least 10 years+

maybe he is going to get 1 mirrrion dollarz bonus from pokerstars for his 1 milionth game ;d

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01-07-2011 , 06:22 AM

#1083

FREECOiN

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 207

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Originally Posted by furo

are you sure that he is no bot?

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Originally Posted by PokerStarsJeff

Hello PokerStars Players,

Please rest assured that we do not tolerate automated players (bots) on PokerStars. We have an extensive arsenal of detection tools in order to ensure that each player is a human being.

We have been monitoring and examining 'rs03rs03' using those tools for quite some time, and the player has always shown very human characteristics, and an ability to pass various tests, including CAPTCHA and many others. Despite this, we, too, have been concerned with the seemingly astonishing volume of play exhibited by this player, especially in recent weeks as his volume has increased dramatically.

As such, we recently froze his account and asked the player for a controlled demonstration, and the player agreed. We dispatched a PokerStars representative to the player's home to observe several hours of play on June 1st, 2010. That observation convinced us that the player is not using a bot.

We cannot violate the player's privacy -- the player has asked to remain anonymous, and not to discuss their strategy. However, among our observations:

1) The player uses a set of self-written hotkeys similar to many commercially available suites (TableNinja.com comes to mind).

- The hotkeys manage automatically joining tables without regard to opponent selection
- The hotkeys close unnecessary popups like "It is free to check", automatically
- The hotkeys require the player to enter every bet, raise, check, or fold manually

2) Both in prior play, and during our in-person observation, we witnessed many "mistakes", such as pre-flop folds of AA and KK.

3) The player was able to verbally chat with our representative during play, while continuing to play.

4) We took video of the play at various times, and conducted tests at various times during the observation (such as unexpectedly asking the player to remove their hands from they keyboard, to observe whether play stopped... and it did).

We observed well over 3 hours of play, and then compared the play we observed to historical records of past play. We cannot divulge exactly what we compared, though we can say that it did include comparing his hand selection, action timing, and many other aspects. The resulting comparison very strongly indicates that the prior play is statistically identical to the observed play.

In short, our bot detection tools have borne themselves out here very nicely. The tools always indicated that the player appeared human despite ever-increasing hours of play and concurrent tables. Now, through our observations, we've independently confirmed those findings.

Please rest assured that PokerStars remains vigilant in proactively hunting for bots. We will continue to review players of concern with our tools, and continue to enhance those tools to ensure that PokerStars remains as free of bots as possible. When we find bots, we remove them from our games. We are pleased to report, however, that 'rs03rs03' is human.

Best Regards,

Jeff
PokerStars Game Security

The guy is just absolutely mental. That, or like other people have brought up, he has other people living with him that split time playing. But in the end, it still just doesn't make sense!

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01-07-2011 , 11:08 AM

#1084

DapsyD

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 449

Thought it would be interesting to see how much stars have made off his rake so here is his graph if the games were rake free

I'm convinced this must be an epic prop bet about getting to 1 million games before a certain date.

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01-07-2011 , 05:10 PM

#1085

Ten shin zaga

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,563

He is SNE or SN?

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01-07-2011 , 11:23 PM

#1086

The+Doctor

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 106

He started the year as a Supernova.

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01-07-2011 , 11:51 PM

#1087

MrUndErcOvErRnG

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 508

We cannot violate the player's privacy -- the player has asked to remain anonymous, and not to discuss THEIR strategy

lol you just did tell us THEIR strategy

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01-07-2011 , 11:53 PM

#1088

Poker Clif

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,806

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Originally Posted by northeastbeast

Single largest reason he doesn't win anymore is because of collusion. I see it every time I play them. The reason you know is because at the end the game becomes impossible to win. They'll always call against your blind though. When you feel like the target and you have a medium stack it's pretty likely that you are the target. When you no all ins even with strong hands you know too. The reason you know the tight play at the end of some of these games isn't natural is because when you push you get called down. It will feel like they want you out.

Or a guy who never plays a freakng hand always limps when it's your blind. If I didn't see it over and over I wouldn't call it what it probably is. If you notice there is a large amount of players from Spanish speaking countries in those games.

The problem I have with Stars is that instead of trying to ban a colluders account they should instead judge single instances of collusion. Instead of trying to ban a person as a cheater they should instead realize that even the most honest person could soft play his friend. That person does not deserve their account be banned but they do deserve to lose their profit from that particular game. Anyway this guys downswing proves the point.

This is a gray area IMO.

If I see the big stack calling every all-in, it is good strategy to avoid that player. I should try to shove only when he is not in the hand.

If I see a maniac that is raising/reraising on almost every hand, I should avoid bluffing every time that player is in a hand.

If I am playing against a friend, I might have information, such as a timing tell, that would cause me to abandon my hand if I see that tell. Or I might have other information, for example, about how his game changes when the antes kick in, that would affect my decisions.

Am I supposed to ignore what I know about how my friend plays, and try to make good decisions only against people that I don't know?

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01-19-2011 , 10:19 PM

#1089

bearly

adept

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 914

what does he have to accomplish to get to sne this year? what would this be worth to him in dollars? i can't begin to comprehend what he is doing , and how. anyone here do something like this that will "go public"?..............................b

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01-28-2011 , 01:07 AM

#1090

IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

Bump

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01-28-2011 , 05:47 AM

#1091

As1an1nvas1on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,352

maybe hes got some sick prop bet that no one knows about with bill gates for mirrionsss

ship the nickles imo

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01-29-2011 , 06:55 AM

#1092

havefun_01110

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 22

this guy is clearly as bot,and im not just jumping on the ban wagon here i played with him since i started playing on stars and just by his behavior . The patterns in his shoves/bets/everything. I reported him already but they cant prove nothing.

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01-29-2011 , 09:21 AM

#1093

IM A FLiRT

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,056

Imagine if he got coached/staked it would be so sick the potential to make maneyz for both party's.

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01-29-2011 , 12:48 PM

#1094

HorvatH

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,394

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Originally Posted by havefun_01110

hes clearly not a bot, this was been proved in this thread, but if he would be why do you care until he losing money?

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01-29-2011 , 01:41 PM

#1095

wiper

still catching up

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 42,898

i think the bigger deal is that if you see a pattern in 'his shoves/bets/everything' and can't take all his money, what are YOU doing wrong?

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01-30-2011 , 05:41 PM

#1096

Poker Clif

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,806

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Originally Posted by wiper

i think the bigger deal is that if you see a pattern in 'his shoves/bets/everything' and can't take all his money, what are YOU doing wrong?

+1

I used to be at tables with him quite often, and he is very exploitable. If I was looking for a $1 DON right now, I would hope to find one where he has already registered.

It is standard strategy in DONs to play very few hands, and play them hard. If that's the case, there are at least two standard ways to handle betting from a tight player.

1. If he bets, he probably has the goods, so you fold. You'll have plenty of chances to get his chips by stealing his blinds. Unless you have aces or kings, you want to play your big hands against people that are playing with crap, betting with 1/3 or more of their hands.

2. Figure out what his range is, and play in the top half of that range. If he's betting 10% of his hands, play against him with anything in the top 5%. If he's playing only 6% of his hands, then you play against him with anything in the top 3% (99+, AKs)

Last edited by Poker Clif; 01-30-2011 at 05:42 PM. Reason: spelling

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01-31-2011 , 07:20 AM

#1097

havefun_01110

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by wiper

i think the bigger deal is that if you see a pattern in 'his shoves/bets/everything' and can't take all his money, what are YOU doing wrong?

i can beat him and have many times hes way 2 ez. min raise him to death

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01-31-2011 , 05:31 PM

#1098

mbison693

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 54

I think this guys identity/story is far more intriguing than the "who is isildur1?" drama. Would love it if the guy ever went public.

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02-09-2011 , 10:51 AM

#1099

tiltnonstop

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,385

"PokerStars will no longer offer Double of Nothing Sit & Go Tournaments as of February 15th, 2011. This is not a decision that was made easily as these tournaments have proven to be quite popular with players. However, after thorough evaluation, PokerStars has decided that the format needed improvement. Newly introduced ‘Fifty50’ Sit & Go tournaments have been deployed to provide an alternative for players who have previously played the Double or Nothings."

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...2011-a-976192/

I guess they came up with a somewhat similar format, alas one where you´re forced to actually play more to be a winner. He already lost tons in a pretty simple format, and now things will only get tougher. Wonder what´s next for him, now that his life has lost all purpose ... GG MAN.