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03-17-2011 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ovenden
yeah yeah whatev

grind on the mind

standard variance
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03-17-2011 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc

My wife comforted me by saying "at least you're not losing money". I submit though that making a few cents an hour over a long period of time is in some ways crueller than losing money, because if you use proper BR management you can spin your wheels forever and even get the occasional puny cashout check to keep stringing you along.

So that's my bitter and somewhat heartbroken tale...maybe no one cares but I feel better venting so thanks for "listening" and GL to all.


Man, that was such a sick post!! What the hell were you thinking??? LOL


I can almost hear the violins playing in the background!
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03-18-2011 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
I wanted to post my graph . . .
I checked out your graph and it's not really worth posting but your story is interesting enough, and I'd agree with the comment that you can almost hear the violins playing in the background.

Your graph shows that you are a good enough player to expect a profit over the long run at least at the lower stakes, and other than the initial 1k games you've
not really had a downswing.

My advice to you is have a break, come back and play the 3, 5 and 10 dollar rebuys (which you do quite well at) and sooner or later you'll get a decent score that will presumably make a difference to you financially as well as emotionally.

gl
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03-18-2011 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ctoph
Heres my buddy. He depo'd $100, played a $100 9man superturbo, shipped it.
played another one ($200 or $300, can't remember), shipped it.

Then proceeded to ship 6 $1000 superturbo HUSNGs in a row. BR at just over 7k.

Then played a shark, who was up over $400k on the year, 7 times in a row and lost it all..

Lol.
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03-18-2011 , 11:56 AM


How cant some ppl get a liiitle better after so many games?

I really dont get it....

Last edited by 5-Ton Hammer; 03-18-2011 at 11:57 AM. Reason: But thank God for that ;)
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03-18-2011 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-Ton Hammer


How cant some ppl get a liiitle better after so many games?

I really dont get it....
Neither do they....
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03-18-2011 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cbeaks
I checked out your graph and it's not really worth posting but your story is interesting enough, and I'd agree with the comment that you can almost hear the violins playing in the background.

Your graph shows that you are a good enough player to expect a profit over the long run at least at the lower stakes, and other than the initial 1k games you've
not really had a downswing.

My advice to you is have a break, come back and play the 3, 5 and 10 dollar rebuys (which you do quite well at) and sooner or later you'll get a decent score that will presumably make a difference to you financially as well as emotionally.

gl
I apologise for the violins, and thank you for your kind and helpful post. I wasn't planning on posting again, but I also wasn't expecting a sympathetic response.

So...back to the rebuys, eh? I thought I recalled that I had a long, terrible downswing in those (like $600) which was why I left them and tried various things like STTs and whatnot in a quest for something with less volatility. How much of a bankroll would you say those need? I certainly can't pony it up now, bit of a catch-22 at this point (even though I'm well above the zero mark lifetime, all those profits are long since spent).

I also will confess, at the risk of being roundly jeered for lack of mental toughness, that I find the MTT grind difficult in that there's so much losing that has to go on to balance the occasional win. I'm not alone in this, since "behavioral psychologists have found that people hate to lose twice as much as they love to win"; so I wonder how others who grind MTTs overcome this problem?

I've tried playing cash, btw, and am almost a perfectly break-even player there (up a little over ten bucks after ten thousand hands or so IIRC).
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03-18-2011 , 08:38 PM
Dude with the 1,000,000 games is epic!
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03-18-2011 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
I apologise for the violins, and thank you for your kind and helpful post. I wasn't planning on posting again, but I also wasn't expecting a sympathetic response.

So...back to the rebuys, eh? I thought I recalled that I had a long, terrible downswing in those (like $600) which was why I left them and tried various things like STTs and whatnot in a quest for something with less volatility. How much of a bankroll would you say those need? I certainly can't pony it up now, bit of a catch-22 at this point (even though I'm well above the zero mark lifetime, all those profits are long since spent).

I also will confess, at the risk of being roundly jeered for lack of mental toughness, that I find the MTT grind difficult in that there's so much losing that has to go on to balance the occasional win. I'm not alone in this, since "behavioral psychologists have found that people hate to lose twice as much as they love to win"; so I wonder how others who grind MTTs overcome this problem?I've tried playing cash, btw, and am almost a perfectly break-even player there (up a little over ten bucks after ten thousand hands or so IIRC).

bananas
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03-18-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
VD VD VD VD VD VD
That's a lot of VD, practice safe sex moron.
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03-19-2011 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Unbelivable
Dude with the 1,000,000 games is epic!
So apparently this player is registering for 100 STTs an hour. Some of them are DoNs (or whatever that new equivalent is); but many are not. That means plenty of shorthanded play, and just an unimaginable number of hands per hour. How? More important, why?

I understand how other players can lose fifteen grand in a variety of ways (though this player was actually up for a while); but losing it by massively multitabling one dollar SnGs, 14 hours a day (roughly 7am to 9pm) and seven days a week (with a few days off here or there)? And doing that for five years straight? I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find anything just a little fishy about this? (And LOL, I didn't mean "fishy" as opposed to "sharky"; I mean "rotten in Denmark" fishy.)
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03-19-2011 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
So apparently this player is registering for 100 STTs an hour. Some of them are DoNs (or whatever that new equivalent is); but many are not. That means plenty of shorthanded play, and just an unimaginable number of hands per hour. How? More important, why?

I understand how other players can lose fifteen grand in a variety of ways (though this player was actually up for a while); but losing it by massively multitabling one dollar SnGs, 14 hours a day (roughly 7am to 9pm) and seven days a week (with a few days off here or there)? And doing that for five years straight? I mean, it's funny and all, but doesn't anyone find anything just a little fishy about this? (And LOL, I didn't mean "fishy" as opposed to "sharky"; I mean "rotten in Denmark" fishy.)
is this a level??
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03-19-2011 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Oenzo
is this a level??
No. Not everything that seems suspicious has to involve the player doing it profiting. Maybe he's dumping chips or something that involves colluding with others and sharing profits, I don't know; but something's not right there.

How do you explain someone playing this many hands a day, day after day and year after year, while slowly bleeding hundreds of dollars a month? It's not like it would be "recreational"--come on.
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03-19-2011 , 06:00 AM
read this thread, all will be explained

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-1-don-666062/

Last edited by cbeaks; 03-19-2011 at 06:01 AM. Reason: rakeback FTW
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03-19-2011 , 06:57 AM
I can't seem to see any sharkscope graphs without registering... can someone search my graph for me?

'gav800' on stars... ty gg gl etc..
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03-19-2011 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gav800
I can't seem to see any sharkscope graphs without registering... can someone search my graph for me?

'gav800' on stars... ty gg gl etc..
ammm, ever tried registering there? it's free, and you have whole 5 searches a day... =)
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03-19-2011 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gav800
I can't seem to see any sharkscope graphs without registering... can someone search my graph for me?

'gav800' on stars... ty gg gl etc..
**** you for making me search that!
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03-19-2011 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cbeaks
read this thread, all will be explained

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-1-don-666062/
Thanks--that was fascinating. Not sure all was explained though! LOL I did eventually find the PokerStars official description of the tests they put him through (which was surreal in and of itself); but it's still a mystery to me as to how this player could actually do this day in and day out. And it does seem, ah, interesting that the graph seemed to tail off after Stars security started nosing around.
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03-19-2011 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gav800
I can't seem to see any sharkscope graphs without registering... can someone search my graph for me?

'gav800' on stars... ty gg gl etc..
Yes, confirmed truly not awesome
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03-19-2011 , 03:07 PM
what becoming a succesful hunl cash player does to your sharkscope:
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03-19-2011 , 03:54 PM
35 000 tournies breakeven/slightly losing. I would kill myself... Variance ?

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03-19-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandLarceny
what becoming a succesful hunl cash player does to your sharkscope:
Who is this? If he's a high-profile pro I don't think it'd be unethical to say who it is.
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03-19-2011 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardstrom
35 000 tournies breakeven/slightly losing. I would kill myself... Variance ?

if its sts sadly yes
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03-19-2011 , 06:24 PM
best one imo... gross
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03-19-2011 , 10:20 PM
"35 000 tournies breakeven/slightly losing. I would kill myself... Variance ?"

Ship the rakeback nickels, IMO.
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