And then you'll wonder why you're still a losing player, you have a huge leak sir but you still have time to fix it.

GOLDEN

"SET OVA SET IS A COOLA'

STOP THINKING LIKE A LITTAL GURL."

-ahnold

actually pretty important, but nice OP

roflmfao I laughed so hard

'call for quad value if you're deep enough with 22 - 33 ' LOL, best part

FYP

Priceless advice ITT. To all those new generation poker players out there: take heed! You won't get strategy like this anywhere. Not even from legends like Phil Hellmuth or Tex Brunson.

Classic threads are still classic

i have to bump this one

This thread is such bull****. I have given up top quad mining on boards with any other broadway card on the flop, due to the number of times I'm getting cracked by royal mining nits. When you do make your quads on the flop, 10%+ of the time the other card is going to be a broadway matching the suit of one of the aces on the board, setting you up to get royalmined.

Just take a look in your own database and I think you'll find it's an unprofitable spot over the long run, and if you're going to have to fold quads on an AAT flop anyway, you might as well just fold the aces preflop, or light 7bet with them as a bluff, mixing in some nutted hands like 28s to polarise your 7bet range.


Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A
UTG bets $100, Hero raises to $400, 4 folds, UTG calls $300

Flop: ($875) A, A, 10 (2 players)
UTG bets $875, Hero calls

Turn: ($2625) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $25, Hero folds

Total pot: $2625

Results:
UTG had J, K (royal flush).
Hero didn't show A, A (4 of a kind, Aces).


You've got to learn to make these big laydowns if you're going to get past the micros.

lawl

Nits itt

Played perfectly. NH. Got $1275 in ahead, but you no longer had the nuts OTT. WP sir. Definitely minimized your losses.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was David Sklansky who, in "The Theory of Poker", said "play like you can see your opponent's cards", or something along those lines. You sir have demonstrated this to perfection.

Pretty advanced level of thinking for a first poster. You must've done your homework.

Thanks, but honestly I think it's an example of what not to do. I would just fold a wet flop like this now, or preferably fold preflop. NEVER slowplay top quads on a wet board, it's just giving people odds to royalmine, and missing out on all the value you'll get from underquads.

I don't feel too bad though, since as you said the fundamental theory of poker says we make money when our opponents make mistakes, and IMO the villain in this hand made a pretty significant mistake - he could have 3bet his KJs for thin value preflop against my aces, but he just flatted.

I don't hate him just shipping it in here, ok sometimes a worse hand like AA will fold preflop and he'll have to content himself with just taking down the dead money but he's often going to stack the kind of fish who would call a preflop all-in holding AA in this spot. People think they're getting fancy by slowplaying 2-to-a-royal in this spot, but it's an ABC play - he'd have a better long-run EV if he just insta-blew preflop with this every time.

^ REALLY DONT KNOW IF SERIOUS

Totally serious bro. It's such a negative freeroll on the flop, knowing that villain is royal mining. Hero probably should just fold PF mostly, since villain is pretty obviously a thinking opponent and is most likely triple range merging. He's definitely not getting it in post flop with anything less than what he called for PF: a royal.

Hero played this hand to perfection, minimizing his losses after not having the nuts OTT. We should all be so lucky to learn the way AA should be played in NLHE imo.

Wow! This has totally transformed my game!! I'm down like 7 BI cause for some reason st00pid donks that I trap with top set always suck out flushes and straights, but I know it'll totally turn around cause I'm not messing with that bottom set garbage and always facing quads either.

In fact, this amazing player I met in live play the other day must've been using your strategy too:

Hero has: 66 in SB

UTG + 2 limps ($2)

Hero(SB) limps

Villain(BB) checks

Flop is 7-6-2

Hero(SB) bets $10

Villain(BB) CALLS $10

UTG+2 folds

Turn Card: T

Board: 7-6-2-T

Hero checks

Villain checks

River: 4

Board: 7-6-2-T-4

Hero checks

Villain checks

Hero shows 66

Villain shows 77, wins $26

Clearly your advanced strategy helped this intelligent player dodge a possible suckout from anyone with an overset on the turn, yet helped him trap me and my stupid measly underset. This guy sure taught me a lesson, and highlights the wisdom behind your incredible strategy.

lol wp

im trolling myself.

meh not even funny unless total nerd

FYP

I think I would take the 106:1 odds on the turn to draw to five of a kind aces, tbh.

I understand your frustration, but honestly, that would be futile:

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I wanna donut

lol draw to over quads, i'd like to know that percentage.

50% LDO

this strategy is awesome if you use agressive bankroll strategy !