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03-07-2013 , 02:41 PM
Obv have to post in epic thread. OP what on earth are you doing bluffcatching playing the board? Especially at these stakes, smh. Just fold river, quadboats aren't a real thing in an unlimited texas holdem, you don't have anything beat. Fold river. Below is sicker than your hand too. Stars confirmed rogged.

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Originally Posted by konnik_
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03-07-2013 , 02:50 PM
Useless,

If you aren't goign to listen to the advice we are tryign to give you, then GTFO. Keep on calling them rivers.. see how far that gets you.
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03-07-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by z4reio
Woah, yeah. You def were ahead on flop, but he's got quad fives on turn. You need to fold turn. 98% of the time he's got the five, and the other 2% he's gonna hit the 5.

Easy fold.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?????????????


2 percent on the time he HAS a five and based on how the hand was going I didn't put him on a five an i was right. This isn't an advice thread. He shoved I called I made the right call and he hit is 1 outer. That's all this thread is.
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03-07-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_10108
Useless,

If you aren't goign to listen to the advice we are tryign to give you, then GTFO. Keep on calling them rivers.. see how far that gets you.
I WAS ALL IN ON THE ****ING TURN!!!!!!!!! I CAN"T FOLD AFTER I"M ALL IN ON THE ****ING TURN!!!!
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03-07-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VantACoo-key?
Obv have to post in epic thread. OP what on earth are you doing bluffcatching playing the board? Especially at these stakes, smh. Just fold river, quadboats aren't a real thing in an unlimited texas holdem, you don't have anything beat. Fold river. Below is sicker than your hand too. Stars confirmed rogged.
This isn't an advice thread. He shoved I called I made the right call and he hit is 1 outer. That's all this thread is.
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03-07-2013 , 02:56 PM
The trouble is poker is about who wins at show down, not who was ahead when, that's why people preach the importance of being results orientated, ultimately the result is what matters. If you don't win at showdown then you need to find out where you went wrong in the hand and where you could have found the fold. You had four streets where you could fold but you missed them all, that's the problem. Don't get married to your hand.
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03-07-2013 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lotuselise88
I WAS ALL IN ON THE ****ING TURN!!!!!!!!! I CAN"T FOLD AFTER I"M ALL IN ON THE ****ING TURN!!!!
BRO, STOP YELLING AT ME!

Seriously, what do you beat on the river!? I'm snap folding here and not even thinking twice about it. I suggest you read some books/get some coaching to improve your game, because you pretty much butchered every street of this hand (especially THE RIVER). You have a lot to learn, son. GL to you.
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03-07-2013 , 03:12 PM
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MP wins 27.76 BB
This is obviously where you went wrong.
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03-07-2013 , 03:23 PM
The glaring mistake that immediately caught my eye was the Turn:

Fold Turn.

Villain has 2-5 all the way through to A-5 nearly always. Can probably rule out Q5.

Actually fold pre. If you can't play QQ post flop you might as well fold and wait for a better spot.
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03-07-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lotuselise88
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?????????????


2 percent on the time he HAS a five and based on how the hand was going I didn't put him on a five an i was right. This isn't an advice thread. He shoved I called I made the right call and he hit is 1 outer. That's all this thread is.
If this isn't an advice thread, then go ahead and keep calling when you're beat. We don't care.
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03-07-2013 , 03:34 PM
This isn't an advice thread. But if it was, I would tell the OP to fold the turn.
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03-07-2013 , 03:38 PM
Why won't you listen to all the excellent advice you are being given? That i what this forum is about. Seeking out quality advice and then absorbing as much as you can is how you will grow as a poker player (and maybe as a person). You clearly should have folded the turn. Why can't you see that? Go over the hand again and I am sure you will see where you went wrong.
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03-07-2013 , 03:44 PM
If you do t want advice on the hand why did you come here asking for it? As many people have already said, you should fold the river because you are beat. Preferably just fold pre, then you would lose less money because you would have lost by the river. Poker is about trying to lose the least chips.
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03-07-2013 , 04:13 PM
Try turning on RIT. you may get there on the 2nd river.
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03-07-2013 , 04:52 PM
I don't like the check back on flop. Clearly villain was quad mining pre.

You only have the 2nd nuts here. You have to find out where you stand. It's better to raise/fold here (or simply fold as stated earlier) as checking back gives you zero information.

If villain flats on the flop, you now know he has quads here 100% of the time (Or at least a 5 in his hand). So it's an easy fold when the 5 peels out on turn. How you call the shove is beyond me.
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03-07-2013 , 07:36 PM
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I don't like the check back on flop. Clearly villain was quad mining pre.

You only have the 2nd nuts here. You have to find out where you stand. It's better to raise/fold here (or simply fold as stated earlier) as checking back gives you zero information.

If villain flats on the flop, you now know he has quads here 100% of the time (Or at least a 5 in his hand). So it's an easy fold when the 5 peels out on turn. How you call the shove is beyond me.
Except he didn't have quads on the flop and he wasn't holding a 5.....sooooooooo nice try
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03-07-2013 , 07:39 PM
Are you guys trolling when you say "fold river" or "fold turn you were beat" ?

Sorry if this is a ******ed question but I genuinely can't tell from half the posts..
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03-07-2013 , 07:50 PM
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Except he didn't have quads on the flop and he wasn't holding a 5.....sooooooooo nice try
Dude, just give it up. You called a shove drawing to one out. You missed. Next hand.
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03-07-2013 , 08:11 PM
This hand is a classic case of butchering a hand, then posting it to try and justify it to yourself and others. Unfortunately we are not playing your game and we will tell it as it is. Sorry that it's not the comforting words you were seeking, but that's the way it is. Soak up the advice, you will become a better poker player and a better person. You had a pretty starting hand but you've got to know when to get away.
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03-07-2013 , 08:18 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH OMG i had no idea people were so dumb on here. I'm all in on the turn buddy
I don't know how this troll keeps working, but it always does.

anyway, you're playing the board, fold the river fish.
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03-07-2013 , 08:20 PM
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Stars confirmed rigged
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03-07-2013 , 08:30 PM
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Are you guys trolling when you say "fold river" or "fold turn you were beat" ?

Sorry if this is a ******ed question but I genuinely can't tell from half the posts..
Really? Are you a gimmic op's account that is trying to somekind of level us? That river is an obvious fold for **** sake and creating new accounts won't make the bad call into a profitable one.

You gotta fold that river sometimes and save few bb's for the later stages of the tournament.
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03-07-2013 , 08:39 PM
Op, if you're not going to accept the solid advice being given to you, I suggest you read some poker literature. A good start would be for you to read Eadop's Tables.

You're welcome.
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03-07-2013 , 08:40 PM
I like your flop check OP, with a hand like this we would like to get as cheap as possible to showdown
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03-07-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Really? Are you a gimmic op's account that is trying to somekind of level us? That river is an obvious fold for **** sake and creating new accounts won't make the bad call into a profitable one.

You gotta fold that river sometimes and save few bb's for the later stages of the tournament.
No I'm serious, but I'm a bit of a fish so that's why I'm asking if it's a ******ed question.. People keep on saying "fold river"* but from the HH he/she was all in on the turn, am I missing something or just being thick??

*Agree btw that if not all in by the river you fold to villain because he will have outkicked you..
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