How has this thread not been moved, deleted, or op banned?

Well it's a good thing that you already admitted that you aren't very good at poker. Read my post, do you know what open-shoving is?

edit: not that I have anything against you, and you've been patient with Mike in this thread, but don't try that FYP crap if it doesn't apply one bit

I just got the 60 day evaluation of Poker Tracker.There are a few parts of it I see how to use,and some I dont see how to use.

Was just wondering if anybody wanted to tell or show how to use it,for not just me,but anybody else who wants to learn how to use it.


Mike DH

LOL!

1) Mike, you dont have to give so many adjectives, you dont need to clarify so much what you did and didnt do, it becomes confusing! Example: decent ok good above average <-- too much

When I said play top 10% I mean like 66+, QJ+, K10+. Not sure whats the percentage there. Cute hands could bust you.

2) AA vs A9 is better than AA vs A6. DUCY?

Mike, I respect your desire to become better at poker, but (and no disrespect intended) I think you might want to think about working on your grammar first, as it is very hard to read your run on sentences.

yup

AcAs 94.08%
Ah9s 5.92%

AcAs 93.86%
Ah6s 6.14%

No I dont know what open shove is...

and yes, imo its ok to open shove with aces in the right circumstances.

I would remove my "FYP crap" since you did remove your post, though.

so how is the experiment going?

how doing?

Ok Mike, I have read this entire thread and you seem like a nice guy.
Although I may regret this, I'm am willing to coach and stake (or BAP) you into becoming a more successful player.
I have ~$25K lifetime winnings and although I'm primarily a 100NL cash game player, I did start out playing SNGs so I do know how to play tourneys.
Interested?

Obv multi level thinking in that he knew that he knew that he knew that he knew that he knew that he knew about knowing stuff......

Ok well just to explain the connection which I think you missed, it was in reference to Mike's open-shove of JJ to like 50bb or something ridiculous. Yes, he got called by a worse hand and lost, which is bad luck, but it was also just a straight up bad play. Hence the [x] bad luck, [x] bad play.

I think it's a terrific play in a freeroll.

If you double (or triple) up, you can make a serious run at bubbling out for a pretty brag-worthy accomplishment

OR

you go out early and have more time to post and argue on Internet Forums, play Magic or D&D or go to the fair and have elephant ears.

win-win imo

Again, sarcasm aside, not far from the truth, according to many freeroll strategy guides.

He's saying he can't just do what --random person on the internet-- tells him to do, because they tell him to do different things. He has to try to figure out who to listen to and who to ignore. And the only way to do that is to figure out what makes sense to him. Saying, "Do this or yur an idiot" doesn't make sense to him.

Mike you got to have luck to win a big tournament. Even if you never make a bad play for the whole tournament, chances are you're going to get sucked out on eventually. For example: if you get all your chips in with AA five times in a row, chances are you're going to lose at least one of them. And very few people are lucky enough to get AA five times in a row.

Getting sucked out on is just something that happens in a tournament, and it doesn't mean you're a bad player. And like Mike said, when it happens the thing to do is to go play D&D with your friends, and hope the Goblin Chief doesn't roll a 20/20 against your 20th level Paladin.

Seriously, have you really read this entire thread?

Mike, I need your help again. I'm playing the best I possibly can, but I just keep suffering terrible beats like these!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.20 Tournament, t15/t30 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t3045)
MP1 (t860)
MP2 (t1845)
CO (t2090)
Button (t1145)
Hero (SB) (t1350)
BB (t1705)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, A
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 3 folds, Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60, UTG calls t60, 1 fold, MP2 calls t60

I pick up a premium hand, a high ace, from a great position, the small blind. Now, I don't like the small blind very much pre-flop because I don't have the advantage of being able to act first and dictate the action, I am going to be able to do so on all following streets. So, I put in a nice pot sweetening raise, and the other players make the mistake of calling.

Flop: (t390) A, 8, 6 (4 players)
Hero bets t90, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t300, Hero calls t210

Bingo, I hit my ace, so I have the best possible hand. I fire out a nice value bet, and two of the players finally fold to cut their losses. One player thinks he can bluff me, so he raises. I smooth call, trapping him.

Turn: (t990) J (2 players)
Hero bets t90, MP2 raises to t1000, Hero calls t870 (All-In)

The turn brings a harmless jack, which he probably hit, since he was probably bluffing with J2 before. I make the same value bet as before because I'm tricky like that, and he pushes! I slowroll and call.

River: (t2910) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

This ace unnecessarily strengthens my monster.

Total pot: t2910

Results in white below:
Hero had 9, A (three of a kind, Aces).
MP2 had 8, 8 (full house, eights over Aces).
Outcome: MP2 won t2910

Now, I accept this beat because if you're going to play a bad hand like 88 and get lucky to spike a set, you're going to lose in the long run because you won't usually hit the set. So I tell myself that stuff happens, and buy into a new tournament of the same type.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.20 Tournament, t15/t30 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (t2685)
MP1 (t820)
MP2 (t3105)
CO (t1325)
Button (t2250)
Hero (SB) (t995)
BB (t2320)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 raises to t160, 2 folds, Hero calls t145, BB calls t130, UTG calls t130, 1 fold

So, in this tournament, I'm doing really well. I've made the final seven out of nine again, just like last time, so I've already done better than over a fifth of the field. This time, I have the added advantage of being the short stack (well, almost, there is one that's a bit smaller than me). When you're the short stack, other players don't respect you and think you're making stupid plays, so they will double and triple you up with ease. Anyway, I pick up kings, so I have the second best hand in Hold 'Em. I set my trap by calling MP2's stupid raise (he raised way too much, giving him very few callers. I'm sure the whole table would have called if he minraised.)

Flop: (t670) 4, Q, 8 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets t400, Hero calls t400, 2 folds

So this flop isn't very good. Someone could have pocket fours or eights. I reluctantly call the original raiser's bet. The other two callers behind me fold, raising my confidence in my hand, since I don't think the original raiser is good enough to raise fours or eights. I put him on QT or maybe a flush draw here.

Turn: (t1470) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t435, Hero calls t435 (All-In)

So I go back to trapping, and check. The raiser puts me all in, and I still have his stupid QT beat, so I call.

River: (t2340) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River blanks.

Total pot: t2340

Results in white below:
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
MP2 had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP2 won t2340

And look at this. The idiot had two aces. He played them so poorly, and yet I'm out of another tournament. I just don't know what to do.

Mike,

You should definitely keep taking these offers for coaching, especially for free. I'd all but kill someone to get that.

Also I'm curious about something. You are focused on these bad beats to goofs. But have you kept track of how often your Aces hold up vs. 56o? Just curious cuz if you are winning more than you are losing, that is about all you can ask for I would think.

^ troll

Hey mike, why don't you play the 500k playchip freerolls?

I meant lostandgone85 is trolling, dont even bother with him...

Thats a generous offer.When if u coach me,I will be as open minded as I can be,and try to listen to and apply as much as I can.But even that being the case,I am not a person that learns best,by having someone tell me to do something,and lets say I dont understand why or it doesnt make sense,and then doing it anyways.


For example lets say u tell me to play 65% or more see the flop.I would probably ask why play that high of a see the flop%,then I would explain why I dont or wouldnt want to play that way.Then I would be open minded,and let you explain,answer,and try to convince me that seeing flop 65% was the right way to go.Then I would probably try it at least once,and if it still didnt make sense to me,or if it didnt work,I would probably not do it anymore,despite your qualifications.


I am just saying this because there have been some who think I am uncoachable or unteachable,and thats not the case.Also if u want to coach and BAP stake me,u might want to start out at small stakes,with good bankroll managesment.That this way with understanding how I learn,with good coaching,and with good bankroll management,even if I were to not succeed,or have success,u would not lose much,and u would not regret things.


So yes I am interested,your offer is very intriguing.And I will make myself available for u to interview me,as I am sure u will probably want to interview me before deciding if u want to coach,and or BAP Stake me,unless u think u already know enough about me to do so.


Mike DH

Its nice someone understands why I did what I did.Seriously The only reason why I did what I did,is I knew there was like a 99% chance I was gona get called by a donk and be a huge favorite preflop to win.It wasnt very likely that I was gona get called by a better hand.And this was in a freeroll,with a lot of donks,and I had a chance to double or tripple up.This kind of play works 9 times out of 10.


Now if this wasnt a freeroll with better smarter players,then yeah your right.And I wouldnt push JJ all in preflop in early position.


Mike DH

Please listen to and pay close attention to what Qoheleth is saying in his post,as he has said it much better than I have,and is right on the mark.


Mike DH

Like I said I think your being very sarcastic.


Mike DH

I have kept a bad beat counter,where I keep track of bad beats.And I have kept track of when I get goof off beat out early in a tourny.Thats why I can accurately say its happened 20 times in a row,then 17 then 13 then 7 then 3


Some people do have extraordinarily bad luck,like that guy who as bubbled almost every tourny over the last years in the WSOP circuit.And he was voted the most unluckiest player in the world.


I know that some of u will ask,if u have such bad luck,why do the experiment since u already know u have such bad luck?Well even though I have such bad luck,its still good to look at play to determine when its bad luck and when its questionable or debatable or worse play.Because even if its bad luck most of the time,if its bad play the rest of time,the chance to win,will be lessened or lost.


Also some would ask if its such bad luck,why continue to play?Well I think that the bad luck will end eventually and that eventually it will even out sometime.Also the most important thing is to just play the best I can,and be the best possible player I can possibly be,and let the chips fall where they may,and as long as that happens,then in a abstract way I have already won,because the winning is the satisfaction,of playing the best that u can.


Mike DH