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02-19-2014 , 09:21 PM
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, i want to talk about how bad of a beat discovering poker has been.

While poker has been moderately successful (and that's only very moderately) for me money-wise, it has contributed to an overall -EV life choice. The poker bug has probably cost me school opportunities, job opportunities, business opportunities, social opportunities, romantic opportunities, etc.

I've been festered with the feeling of just quitting poker entirely but every time I reason that I should do it, the next weekend, I end up checking the Bravo app for live poker games and seeing juicy games running, and before I know it, I am sitting at a table playing poker. It's a vicious cycle.

One of the things I really can't put my finger on, but I have a vague notion of distaste is the contentious nature of poker. It's like...in order to play the game correctly, you have to be a douche, you have to iso, 3bet, barrel and try to steal as many pots as well as you can. For me, the point of the game is to make money. That means finding good tables and playing them. My ideal table is one where no one is giving me a hard time and there is a couple of fish. However, realistically, that happens rarely. There will be other good players. If they sit down at your table, and they are also trying to play good solid poker, guess what, you and him are going to clash. You and him will try to 3bet each other, float one another, etc in an attempt to outplay the other player. You do this to dominate the other player so you can achieve and maintain the status quo of having no player at the table giving you a hard time.

Another thing is the near impossibility to identify better players in the short term when 2 similarly skilled players clash. Perhaps one player IS better than the other, but variance is such a dominating factor in the short term that I can't know for sure. If I run better than my opponent and stack him a few times, its entirely feasible that he's still way better than me and vice versa.
The thing I can't stand about this is the smugness of people who are winning in a session. It brings out the contempt and jealous side of me and I just seethe and stew in my emotion while trying to temper it. I mean, I know the right way to play poker is to be as disaffected emotionally as possible but poker is an emotional game. That's why there are terms like fish, donks, whales, droolers, mouthbreathers. This forum thrives on emotions.

Engaging in this contemptuous feeling makes me hate myself.

How do I reconcile this ill-felt notion and the poker bug that keeps getting me with the passage of time? All I want to hear is whether people can relate to feeling this way.

Now go ahead and destroy me if you wish because I did choose to post this on BBV.
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02-19-2014 , 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallelflux
At the risk of sounding like an idiot...

<lots of stuff that makes me sound like an idiot>
FYP
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02-19-2014 , 09:51 PM
And not a single dick was eaten that day


Last edited by TooRareToDie; 02-19-2014 at 09:58 PM.
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02-19-2014 , 09:59 PM
That's a lot of words I didn't read.

Poker for a living is a ****ty lifestyle and unfulfilling for many. If you aren't happy make a change.
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02-19-2014 , 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallelflux
The thing I can't stand about this is the smugness of people who are winning in a session. It brings out the contempt and jealous side of me and I just seethe and stew in my emotion while trying to temper it.
"Males shouldn't be jealous that's a female trait" Jay-Z

Spoiler:
Rule #1
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Don't be a
Spoiler:
Bitch
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02-20-2014 , 12:06 AM
Imo you should have left off the first line, because it would make people trivialise the rest and not take it seriously, when you bring up some interesting points.
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02-20-2014 , 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallelflux
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, i want to talk about how bad of a beat discovering poker has been.

While poker has been moderately successful (and that's only very moderately) for me money-wise, it has contributed to an overall -EV life choice. The poker bug has probably cost me school opportunities, job opportunities, business opportunities, social opportunities, romantic opportunities, etc.

I've been festered with the feeling of just quitting poker entirely but every time I reason that I should do it, the next weekend, I end up checking the Bravo app for live poker games and seeing juicy games running, and before I know it, I am sitting at a table playing poker. It's a vicious cycle.

One of the things I really can't put my finger on, but I have a vague notion of distaste is the contentious nature of poker. It's like...in order to play the game correctly, you have to be a douche, you have to iso, 3bet, barrel and try to steal as many pots as well as you can. For me, the point of the game is to make money. That means finding good tables and playing them. My ideal table is one where no one is giving me a hard time and there is a couple of fish. However, realistically, that happens rarely. There will be other good players. If they sit down at your table, and they are also trying to play good solid poker, guess what, you and him are going to clash. You and him will try to 3bet each other, float one another, etc in an attempt to outplay the other player. You do this to dominate the other player so you can achieve and maintain the status quo of having no player at the table giving you a hard time.

Another thing is the near impossibility to identify better players in the short term when 2 similarly skilled players clash. Perhaps one player IS better than the other, but variance is such a dominating factor in the short term that I can't know for sure. If I run better than my opponent and stack him a few times, its entirely feasible that he's still way better than me and vice versa.
The thing I can't stand about this is the smugness of people who are winning in a session. It brings out the contempt and jealous side of me and I just seethe and stew in my emotion while trying to temper it. I mean, I know the right way to play poker is to be as disaffected emotionally as possible but poker is an emotional game. That's why there are terms like fish, donks, whales, droolers, mouthbreathers. This forum thrives on emotions.

Engaging in this contemptuous feeling makes me hate myself.

How do I reconcile this ill-felt notion and the poker bug that keeps getting me with the passage of time? All I want to hear is whether people can relate to feeling this way.

Now go ahead and destroy me if you wish because I did choose to post this on BBV.
fyp
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02-20-2014 , 12:37 AM
i think the plan for you op is to quit poker and take up bally dancing because you are a
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02-20-2014 , 12:53 AM
tl;ead

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02-20-2014 , 02:22 AM
Quitting poker is not going to help you deal with the mental issues that cause your problems. It doesn't matter what lifestyle you choose, you could still miss out on some of the things you mentioned. You brought up some good points and maybe a lifestyle change is in order. But I think you could go a lot further by exploring what those mental and emotional issues may be, dealing with them in a positive way, and then moving on.
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02-20-2014 , 03:19 AM
You're a loser. Let's get that out of the way first of all. You can't handle the emotion because you've never been a real man. You suck at poker because you have never been good at anything in life and trivialize your "emotions" because they hurt you in the short run and the long run. People who don't have a +EV at poker are most of the time fish who are just trying to give their money away. Please do continue to play, you're good for the game (and an all expense paid ticket and hotel to Vegas for me).
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02-20-2014 , 05:55 AM
Not everyone has what it takes to be a pro!!!
For some of us that living on the edge, not knowing if you`re gona ship the WSOP or live in a trailer for the rest of your life is what gives us the thril
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02-20-2014 , 06:35 AM
Tl;dr...but how big was the D you ate?
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02-20-2014 , 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnstumper
"Males shouldn't be jealous that's a female trait" Jay-Z

Spoiler:
Rule #1
Spoiler:
Don't be a
Spoiler:
Bitch
You just quoted Jay-Z. Like that guy has anything useful to say, it's like quoting OP.

Guy has the physical resemblance of an ugly monkey and can still have anything he desires. What does he know about jealousy?
You, OP and Jay-Z should go EAD.
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02-20-2014 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Cavallo Italiano
You just quoted Jay-Z. Like that guy has anything useful to say, it's like quoting OP.

Guy has the physical resemblance of an ugly monkey and can still have anything he desires. What does he know about jealousy?
You, OP and Jay-Z should go EAD.
Mamma mia, Mr. cavallo italiano how dare you talk bad about Jay-Z. I will make sure he reads this thread and his entourage will pop a cap in yo ass. Jay-Z is the **** yo he is gangsta, you are wanksta. He is balla, you are a fish calla. Go back to Italia with your brother Luigi and start the plumbing business again. Only way your fishy Italian ass will make any money. Because you for damn sure don't make money at teh pokahz.
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