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10-22-2009 , 07:41 AM
WTF is this ****?
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10-22-2009 , 07:45 AM
this thread was much more amazing before people actually began thinking of it seriously

1st page is best 1st page on the forum
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10-22-2009 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by beHypE
Could you explain why someone achieving his goal has still lost his propbet since he has to pay 10%?
This is how I worked it out. Players will be awarded more to do well and their won't be any loss as you could see in the examples. I think the bet will be more fair this way for bettors with the bigger return when they win.

I might turn the bet into: I bet I can help 51% of 50 people build a 3k bankroll within 1 month. But that way the players aren't included in the bet, Which I think is not as fun.
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10-22-2009 , 08:01 AM
WAT?
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10-22-2009 , 08:11 AM
i applaud you for at least thinking of a new interesting idea for a bet that involves many players. i might be interested in playing, ima 100nl hu player but this might possibly be fun...just dont know how many hours you require us to play. gl hashing out the details.
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10-22-2009 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by elibombeli

I might turn the bet into: I bet I can help 51% of 50 people build a 3k bankroll within 1 month. But that way the players aren't included in the bet, Which I think is not as fun.
The thread reads "I will help 50 players to build a 3k bankroll within one month." That means you bet you can help make 100% of 50 people build a 3k bankroll within a month. Just set a line on that goal and start booking action.

Randomly assigning somebody's bet to 1 person sucks.
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10-22-2009 , 08:14 AM
ill take free couching yes
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10-22-2009 , 08:23 AM
great bet! i'm in for 1000 against if it will happen
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10-22-2009 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazillion
The thread reads "I will help 50 players to build a 3k bankroll within one month." That means you bet you can help make 100% of 50 people build a 3k bankroll within a month. Just set a line on that goal and start booking action.

Randomly assigning somebody's bet to 1 person sucks.
I don't think 100% will be able to reach this goal since some people just aren't gonna be dedicated to it. How would you formulate the bet?
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10-22-2009 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by elibombeli
BETTORS:
When you bet 1k and the total of bets is 50k your whole bet will be bet against one random player.
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Originally Posted by Gazillion
Randomly assigning somebody's bet to 1 person sucks.
This, i dont think any bettor wants to put his money vs. a random person chosen by OP

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10-22-2009 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jabba021
You must have a seriously good RB/bonus deal somewhere OP.
thats what Im thinking but gl op
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10-22-2009 , 08:44 AM
Spreadsheet anyone?
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10-22-2009 , 08:46 AM
Ok I think I worked out the bet as it was originally formulated.

Lets assume u bet $1000 and you get assigned to player A.
If A makes it to $3000 then you lose your $1000.
If A doesn't make it to $3000 then you get your $1000 back plus:
- $100 from Eli
- A share of Eli's profit based on how many people lose the bet
- 30% of A's finishing BR

See below:
format:
x losers with bankroll 500 / 2000 at the end gives profit for bettor of y / z.
49 losers 362 / 812
24 losers 3168 / 3618
1 loser 5750 6200

Problem is of course that you are betting on one player who you do not
know. Rather than diversifying with a combination of pieces of all 50 players.
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10-22-2009 , 08:49 AM
To add to that, it's better for the bettor (ho ho) if

- your player gets close to 3000 but doesn't make it
- lots of players make 3000 and yours does not
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10-22-2009 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by realsheesha
Spreadsheet anyone?
Even with a spreadsheet this is a bit of a bitch because there are so many variables:

- Finishing bankroll
- Number of losing players
- Eli's result

Eli, how the hell you thought up this prop bet is completely beyond me but I reckon you got no chance of selling this to 50 bettors.
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10-22-2009 , 08:53 AM
get a hobby.
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10-22-2009 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by loknar
This, i dont think any bettor wants to put his money vs. a random person chosen by OP

Bet could also be spread over all players.


But I agree with everyone that this bet needs to be simplified. I will try to work out something more straightforward. Any suggestions appreciated.
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10-22-2009 , 08:58 AM
this is ******ed.
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10-22-2009 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SausageFest
After readings OP's posts and then viewing this^^ I had to lol pretty hard.
Good sum up.

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Originally Posted by Texas_Oldham
Ok I think I worked out the bet as it was originally formulated.

Lets assume u bet $1000 and you get assigned to player A.
If A makes it to $3000 then you lose your $1000.
If A doesn't make it to $3000 then you get your $1000 back plus:
- $100 from Eli
- A share of Eli's profit based on how many people lose the bet
- 30% of A's finishing BR

See below:
format:
x losers with bankroll 500 / 2000 at the end gives profit for bettor of y / z.
49 losers 362 / 812
24 losers 3168 / 3618
1 loser 5750 6200

Problem is of course that you are betting on one player who you do not
know. Rather than diversifying with a combination of pieces of all 50 players.
Yes, so what it comes down to is that OP will appoint/link every bettor to himself (reason he is one of the players), as he is confident he can make 5K -----> profit.
Since everything involved in terms of RB, bonusses etc counts, he can probably have someone provide him with a sufficient "bonus" in case he doesn't make it.
Decent scam imo, and lol at people actually wanting to PM him..
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10-22-2009 , 09:07 AM
I want to be one of the 50 and I bet against you..
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10-22-2009 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
and lol at people actually wanting to PM him..
How do know what that wanted to say in their PM?
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10-22-2009 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazillion
The thread reads "I will help 50 players to build a 3k bankroll within one month." That means you bet you can help make 100% of 50 people build a 3k bankroll within a month. Just set a line on that goal and start booking action.

Randomly assigning somebody's bet to 1 person sucks.
this. you can have the players take a % of your action or whatever to have them to participate in the bet
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10-22-2009 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
After readings OP's posts and then viewing this^^ I had to lol pretty hard.
Good sum up.



Yes, so what it comes down to is that OP will appoint/link every bettor to himself (reason he is one of the players), as he is confident he can make 5K -----> profit.
Since everything involved in terms of RB, bonusses etc counts, he can probably have someone provide him with a sufficient "bonus" in case he doesn't make it.
Decent scam imo, and lol at people actually wanting to PM him..
This whole thread is meant for discussing and outlining this bet with guidelines and rules. Randomly asigning would mean that it's done randomly and not by me.

The bet is about 50 players including me that will have guidance from me and possibly eachother to build a small bankroll into a 3k bankroll and inspire others to do the same. I think it's easy but that's since I have done it before and I know how to go about it.

I thought I would be one of the players to make it more interesting for me and possibly also the bettors that's all.

I think it's a great challenge to guide 50 people to decent stakes. I'm very confident that I can do this and in my mind am 100% certain that it's very doable. People need guidance and support.


I will be working out a more straightforward bet.
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10-22-2009 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by elibombeli
This whole thread is meant for discussing and outlining this bet with guidelines and rules. Randomly asigning would mean that it's done randomly and not by me.

The bet is about 50 players including me that will have guidance from me and possibly eachother to build a small bankroll into a 3k bankroll and inspire others to do the same. I think it's easy but that's since I have done it before and I know how to go about it.

I thought I would be one of the players to make it more interesting for me and possibly also the bettors that's all.

I think it's a great challenge to guide 50 people to decent stakes. I'm very confident that I can do this and in my mind am 100% certain that it's very doable. People need guidance and support.


I will be working out a more straightforward bet.
Just out of interest:

How long have you been playing poker?

What game/stakes do you normally play?

What are your lifetime winnings?
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10-22-2009 , 10:02 AM
Put me in the list.

Let's see what's your plan to make 3k in one month starting with $100.

i don't have money/bankroll btw.
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