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12-04-2013 , 12:30 PM

#201

TheStuntman

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,390

God, that jpeg of stealing the blinds from the black friday thread made me laugh. I'm gonna go read that thread again.

I thought no strat in BBV?

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12-04-2013 , 12:32 PM

#202

MMD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,553

Betting turn because we have fold equity though? Must be a few levels above me that.

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12-04-2013 , 04:25 PM

#203

thabighurt35

**** you Monday

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,588

wheres the banhammer for this epic ****ing d-bag of an OP?

Seriously, he posts completely misleading and possibly fake graphs in BBV to plug is pathetic video series?

EABoD's OP

the whole ****ing bag

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12-04-2013 , 05:20 PM

#204

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by omnishakira

betting turn may be fine and river call might be fine too. all depends on the reg and your image atm

he explained it poorly but he isnt wrong

Don´t care and don´t know nothing about strategy.

OP change his opinion based on commentary of random people and n100 regs.... saying at the end that he just do that line ag. fishes. a contrario

and " If villain is a NL100 reg, then ofc you are beat and should not continue betting"

A coach at the level of OPS should stand by his points and don't care about random posters of low stakes, as op grinds serious limits and wins serious cash.

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Originally Posted by YourDoom

Bump to clear the air...

Ok. I honestly didn't see most of these comments until months after the fact.
Sweden, you make a few valid points but also many of the things you say esp. about reasons not to bet the turn I have to fully and passionately disagree with.

I just reread the entire thread and stand by everything I wrote here.

I believe that the larger disconnect is occurring here because of the extreme lack of info on the villain. Many of you are just assuming he's a nit NL100 reg, whereas I am not. To say that anyone has to be wrong assigning him a range without any additional info on his tendencies or the game flow is ridiculous.

So in turn, we are analyzing two entirely different hands.

The line you should take depends entirely on your read of this player's tendencies and range.

If villain is a NL100 reg, then ofc you are beat and should not continue betting. If villain is a fish, then I'll take my line with confidence all day.

But regardless, I'm not posting here to re-spark any kind of strategy discussion. I just wanted to clear up any confusion on what I actually think about this hand.

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Originally Posted by Khal Drogo

Lol, the villain is not a fish Your Doom. Why do you keep saying that the play you described is best vs a fish, when villain is 24/18 thus =/= fish?

IFS >>>>>>>> YourDoom.
He picked every hole in your 1st terrible post. When I read it I was slightly in shock. I think IFS coaches a little bit now. If I had to chose between the two, I would chose IFS even if he charges 10x what YD charges.

As for the hand, I would play it the exact same, and the river looks like a pretty easy fold.

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Originally Posted by Cash Beast Ezra

Um...Isn't it kind of logical to assume that villain is a standard 100NL reg given that:

a) this is 100NL (ldo)
b) he isn't playing short
c) his VPIP/PFR stats indicate that he's a reg (24/18)

In any case, I'm not sure how much 100NL you've played lately (I'm guessing not much), but it's significantly tougher than it used to be and regs outnumber fish by a considerable margin now.

In fact, you will likely lose a ton of money if you play every hand assuming all your opponents are fish until proven otherwise.

Last edited by 00001; 12-04-2013 at 05:24 PM. Reason: If villain is a NL100 reg, then ofc you are beat and should not continue betting"

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12-05-2013 , 01:34 AM

#205

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

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12-05-2013 , 05:06 AM

#206

daniel9861

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,389

Gotta love the analysis.

"We're getting 3-1 on the river, so we only need to be good 1/4 times."

"We might have the best hand and we might not."

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12-05-2013 , 09:49 AM

#207

wafflehouse1

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 11,266

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Originally Posted by Maybe_memories

LOL. 00001 wins the thread. I doubt Mister Doom will be back in this thread. I wonder if this thread should be linked to his coaching thread. just as an FYI.

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Originally Posted by MMD

It definitely should but will mods allow it?

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Originally Posted by Maybe_memories

Sadly, I think not. He does pay for it. It seems any dissenting opinion is removed..

Still, 2p2 usually doesn't stand for fraud on the forums. I think the opinions of this thread should at least be noted.

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Originally Posted by 00001

Some Fraud is this thread. The rest, opinions are opinions. He can be good , but plays low volume, and he said that, but its lower, and spends all his time just selling his things and making\getting more.

Still in other thread(s) each one is free to do this or that.

This thread it´s not accurate, the title and the content, and the hands are not "new,new", the 15$ 30$ ( easy to spot) are in this graph longggg longgg time ago, and its 20k, 20% of 100k. With some calculations and that, the profit can be acurrate but never "recent hands".

If anyone is truly concerned, PM the coaching forum mods, Bobo Fett, and ultimately Mat Sklansky. 2p2 certainly doesnt guarantee the accuracy of these threads, but they wont stand by and let anyone get the worst of things if it is grossly misrepresented. If I had actually been reading the posts itt instead of just monitoring it, I likely would have reported it, but anyhow, its up to you guys if you want to.

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12-05-2013 , 12:37 PM

#208

UncleDrew

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 54

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Originally Posted by omnishakira

betting turn may be fine and river call might be fine too. all depends on the reg and your image atm

he explained it poorly but he isnt wrong

LOL

-Uncle Drew

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12-05-2013 , 02:30 PM

#209

omnishakira

High Troller

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,732

^infract for sig plz

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12-05-2013 , 04:33 PM

#210

Pokerman1992

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 340

YourDoom: Do you really think you beat todays games at mid/highstakes like you are saying with good samplesize?

Just curious.. I think many good players have the so called intuition in many spots, which might be hard to explain to others.

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12-07-2013 , 01:15 AM

#211

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

100$ that op cant have 10bb in n50 in 100,000 hands

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12-07-2013 , 02:32 AM

#212

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

who is for a bet?

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12-07-2013 , 02:38 AM

#213

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

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12-07-2013 , 04:33 AM

#214

sleepingtom

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,213

if you could still make that much money you would still play

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12-07-2013 , 10:44 AM

#215

SW_Kaizer

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,192

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Originally Posted by omnishakira

lol that pic really look like a dude from those win 40000$ per month working online scams

all clean, well dress but not too well, with a slight smile

Spoiler:

Last edited by SW_Kaizer; 12-07-2013 at 10:52 AM. Reason: to be fair Tzvetkoff dresses pretty good

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12-07-2013 , 12:03 PM

#216

Ned Horton

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 245

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Originally Posted by 00001

100$ that op cant have 10bb in n50 in 100,000 hands

100$ that you cant have 10bb in nl5 in 1000 hands.

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12-07-2013 , 12:08 PM

#217

SW_Kaizer

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,192

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Originally Posted by Ned Horton

100$ that you cant have 10bb in nl5 in 1000 hands.

come on - thats his whole bankroll

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12-07-2013 , 02:02 PM

#218

omnishakira

High Troller

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,732

LOL i hope this thread never dies

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12-07-2013 , 02:08 PM

#219

MMD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,553

Rolf at yourdooms dad

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12-07-2013 , 07:43 PM

#220

00001

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,511

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Originally Posted by SW_Kaizer

come on - thats his whole bankroll

im in

maybe its not, its 102$
im willing to put all on the line for this bet

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12-07-2013 , 10:18 PM

#221

CliffLee

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,007

Just read the whole thread, loving it, lol'd a lot.

imo this guy is scamming people and should be outted (which obv has already been done

).

Hopefully OP comes back and defends himself.

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12-07-2013 , 11:01 PM

#222

hypergeometry

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 742

Well, this guy could be an scam or not. But certainly there are guys crushing for 10bb/100 nl1000. So I think it's doable without table selection right ? Not long time ago I saw a guy defeating Zoom nl500 for 10bb/100 over like 400k hands.