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11-28-2013 , 02:40 PM
Those new lines and concepts that you spend so much time away from the tables on must be super succesful if they are crushing poker for 3buyins a month.
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11-28-2013 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by deathorglory0
It is unethical for you to be misleading.
ethics don't real
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11-28-2013 , 07:09 PM
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11-28-2013 , 07:46 PM
Damn op getting called out hard on barely playing anymore and posting misleading results.

*Grabs popcorn*
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11-28-2013 , 09:18 PM
There's nothing misleading about the graphs. They are my actual graphs. I also make it very publicly known that I am now a part time player. I've written about it several times on 2p2.

I believe in 100% honesty and transparency, and have been quite passionate about that fact in the coaching forum.

If you are not impressed with the graphs, and want to criticize me for choosing to go part time or think in your brain that I am now suddenly terrible at poker because of my reduced volume, or don't like my picture, or are angry about me "see my coaching listing" under-title, feel free.

Everyone should make their own judgments based on the info in front of them.

Fortunately, most intelligent people who take the time to gain and digest all the info there is about me tend to reach very positive conclusions.

Unfortunately, the troll-noise to intelligent comment ratio in this forum seems to be off the charts, even higher than NVG, making it probably one of the worst places to attempt to field legitimate questions.

On a lighter note, Happy Thanksgiving to my American lurkers out there!
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11-28-2013 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecastyles
+1

now go away
+10000
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11-28-2013 , 09:47 PM
I think you understand why everyone reacted like this. If you weren't coaching, and doing other stuff in your life instead of prioritizing playing the game, few people would have an issue. If you were just some grinder who crushed the games post BF for 800k+ hands or whatever, this would be a brag with no suspect motive.

Since you coach, a thread like this in BBV is basically a coaching ad, perhaps, somehow that wasn't your intent, but that's something that you probably won't convince many of. The title of the thread is poker is not dead, yet you include a bunch of hands from prior years. The 100k is probably fine, it's all in the last 2 years/post BF. But the bigger graph + thread title implies it was also played in the last 2 years. There was no distinction.

So that's why you're getting flak, and I'm sure you know that. All of that said, I'm sure you're a great player, and anyone crushing the limits like you did back then will damn near always have a super strong game, especially when you are still playing hands. I have no doubt in your game, but this thread is a bit spammy and misleading.
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11-28-2013 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by YourDoom
There's nothing misleading about the graphs. They are my actual graphs. I also make it very publicly known that I am now a part time player. I've written about it several times on 2p2.

I believe in 100% honesty and transparency, and have been quite passionate about that fact in the coaching forum.

If you are not impressed with the graphs, and want to criticize me for choosing to go part time or think in your brain that I am now suddenly terrible at poker because of my reduced volume, or don't like my picture, or are angry about me "see my coaching listing" under-title, feel free.

Everyone should make their own judgments based on the info in front of them.

Fortunately, most intelligent people who take the time to gain and digest all the info there is about me tend to reach very positive conclusions.

Unfortunately, the troll-noise to intelligent comment ratio in this forum seems to be off the charts, even higher than NVG, making it probably one of the worst places to attempt to field legitimate questions.

On a lighter note, Happy Thanksgiving to my American lurkers out there!
colour me impressed with your 100% honesty. i am looking for a poker coach. are you available and what do you charge? I play mostly .01/.02 nlhe on fulltilt. i am a consistent loser at this level ( $35 a day ), and i am thinking of moving up to .02/.05 where my raises will be more respected. can you help me?

p.s. i think i am one of the intlligent people. how can i have a graph just like yours?
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11-28-2013 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mendicant loafer
colour me impressed with your 100% honesty. i am looking for a poker coach. are you available and what do you charge? I play mostly .01/.02 nlhe on fulltilt. i am a consistent loser at this level ( $35 a day ), and i am thinking of moving up to .02/.05 where my raises will be more respected. can you help me?

p.s. i think i am one of the intlligent people. how can i have a graph just like yours?
You lose $35 a day at .01/.02?

That's ridiculous man
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11-28-2013 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 3BetBluffing
You lose $35 a day at .01/.02?

That's ridiculous man
too many donkeys at .01/.02. i think i can do much better if i get some professional coaching from a pro like OP. and i move up.
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11-28-2013 , 11:15 PM
So again...how much $ was won in 2013?
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11-29-2013 , 01:01 AM
The fact that I play part time or played 57k hands in 2012 are not shocking revelations

My most recent 100k hands (updated Nov 12th, 2013.)

recent!

u play 52k in 2012, and now u show ur last 100 k hands?
52 2012 more 50 2010 2011
recent

and btw, if i was a HSP prefered to just play than teach people beating me, and kill my wr and kill the games

im pretty sure this 8 to 10 tabling
is better than ( 300€) coach per hour and kill ur winrate.

u just could make 648000 $ + GAzilions of rakeback per year just playing 34k hands per month. That since, lets say, 2008 - 2009 , 2009 ( 5 years) 648000 $ + A ton o rakeback x 5 years = 3240000$ like 4M$ 5$M with rakeback,

You could have easly that, and i belive you have, why coach for 300 per hour?
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11-29-2013 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 3BetBluffing
You lose $35 a day at .01/.02?

That's ridiculous man
i actually play this variety of lol stakes, i can teach you be the best micro grinder, just 225$ per hour my coach ( 20 hour min), and my advanced hud 2250$, my note system 1500$, table selection guide 1000$, a coletion of funny cat videos to deal with tilt ( 30 videos, 150$ each one)

When you finish my coach amd get all the stuff, im 100% sure you will make 2$ to 3$ an hour on the tables.
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11-29-2013 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Malefiicus
I think you understand why everyone reacted like this. If you weren't coaching, and doing other stuff in your life instead of prioritizing playing the game, few people would have an issue. If you were just some grinder who crushed the games post BF for 800k+ hands or whatever, this would be a brag with no suspect motive.

Since you coach, a thread like this in BBV is basically a coaching ad, perhaps, somehow that wasn't your intent, but that's something that you probably won't convince many of. The title of the thread is poker is not dead, yet you include a bunch of hands from prior years. The 100k is probably fine, it's all in the last 2 years/post BF. But the bigger graph + thread title implies it was also played in the last 2 years. There was no distinction.

So that's why you're getting flak, and I'm sure you know that. All of that said, I'm sure you're a great player, and anyone crushing the limits like you did back then will damn near always have a super strong game, especially when you are still playing hands. I have no doubt in your game, but this thread is a bit spammy and misleading.
this is spot on. except maybe the last paragraph, for which there are plenty of examples out there making it not necessarily true.

the graphs are good, obviously. suggesting that this thread isn't misleading, however, is ridiculous.
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11-29-2013 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by YourDoom
There's nothing misleading about the graphs. They are my actual graphs. I also make it very publicly known that I am now a part time player. I've written about it several times on 2p2.

I believe in 100% honesty and transparency, and have been quite passionate about that fact in the coaching forum.
You could probably end all the criticism by just posting a graph of all your hands for 2013.
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11-29-2013 , 04:28 AM
But how much did you cheat or scam?
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11-29-2013 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
solid brag

Lol ty for this
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11-29-2013 , 05:43 AM
Change your pic and I think more people will like you bro! You look like a douche.
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11-29-2013 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WhySoSrs?
Change your pic and I think more people will like you bro! You look like a douche.
This is like the least of OP's worries irt his likeability.

Besides the thread title, his 2p2 sn, multiple posts itt confirming his bumhunter badge is legit, and inability to prove us haters wrong, i'd say he's an alright guy.
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11-29-2013 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by YourDoom
Why shouldn't a poker site want as many players as possible at their tables? Ratholers on average put in a huge volume of hands, and obviously contribute to the overall rake. I think if these sites are going to allow the rampant population of ratholers to thrive however, then why "pretend?" Why not follow though 100%?

There are 3 rules in all of poker, which are ingrained in the essence of the game, that I've never seen violated in any legit poker room.

1. You are not allowed to remove chips off of a poker table. I say forget that rule. Sites should implement a "Remove chips" button. That way when a ratholer doubles up, they can simply remove the extra chips and continue seamlessly with 20BBs.

2. There is a 20BB minimum buy in. Why is this? Why not allow players to buy in for 10BBs or 5BBs. Think about why this rule exists.

3. If you leave a table you cannot buy in for less than the amount of chips than you left with for 30 mins. This is even a further extension of rule #1.

All of these rules are in place on every site I've ever seen. But stop and ask yourself WHY these rules even exist. Why would these rules be originally created?

These rules in place to PREVENT EXACTLY what a ratholer does? If you can come up with any other reason, please, respond.

However with the expansion of poker sites and the growth of online poker, and the endless supply of online tables, these rules have become completely ineffective in what they are designed to do.

So my advice is to online poker sites is to either update the rules for the age of online play or to stop pretending and remove them completely. You can choose to strip all integrity from the game and let it dissolve to something that no ligament player wants any part of... watching all of your regulars jump ship, all while facilitating the slow death of your site.

OR, you can be the first site to implement REAL RULES, which are in the sprit of the original, ineffective rules that you are already implement. The sprit of the rules of poker.

1. A 30BB min buy in.
2. Extend the 30 min rule to 24 hours. "30 minutes" is an obsolete time period. A rule left over from live poker rooms, where a player cannot always instantly jump on a new table...or 16 of them.

I believe that that FIRST site to implement this will first see a small reduction in their volume as the ratholers cash out...but THEN as word of mouth spreads, you site will grow into the premier site on the web. I am sure that any and all legitimate players will flock to the "only site that has zero ratholers."

Think about it, not a single ratholer on ANY table, ever. I can't wait to sign up!
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11-29-2013 , 07:08 AM
Okay... changed my mind, guys a complete fool.
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11-29-2013 , 10:42 AM
As someone who got access to yourdoom's videos on 35bb'ing a while ago for free(my friend paid) i sincerly hope no one pays for it. Most of the videos were more simple than a handchart from 2008 and the rest was him telling people "you learned that in my more expensive course already, so i wont repeat myself".

After that video i had no more idea how to play 35bb than when i started. But i did learn how to use the SS calc banned from stars(3 variables) and that AQ and 99+ are the stack off hands in most scenarios. hundreds of $ for that.

Sad part is a lot of people dont know that efven a 0.05 nl 200 grinder will have 50-100k stretch where he can win 12-15bb/100 mass tabling. it happens. Yourdoom could of broken even on the next 100k hand or even lost even 3-4years ago. his volume never was strong enough to show a substainable winrate. He's one of these guys who make money by using easly won money.
Give anyone average 200k today and they can substain a good lifestyle at 2/4+ bumhunting/getting rakeback/etcetc. Really easy without the stress of money.

Yet yourdoom is still probably a really decent 1on1 coach for 200 and less players. Not for as much as he charge though. He obviously doesnt suck donkey balls. He knows the poker math and he can approach poker pretty decently. People just need to know that written courses are a major ****ty scam.
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11-29-2013 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fegelein
LOL

Last edited by omnishakira; 11-29-2013 at 12:16 PM. Reason: <3
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11-29-2013 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
As someone who got access to yourdoom's videos on 35bb'ing a while ago for free(my friend paid) i sincerly hope no one pays for it. Most of the videos were more simple than a handchart from 2008 and the rest was him telling people "you learned that in my more expensive course already, so i wont repeat myself".

After that video i had no more idea how to play 35bb than when i started. But i did learn how to use the SS calc banned from stars(3 variables) and that AQ and 99+ are the stack off hands in most scenarios. hundreds of $ for that.

Sad part is a lot of people dont know that efven a 0.05 nl 200 grinder will have 50-100k stretch where he can win 12-15bb/100 mass tabling. it happens. Yourdoom could of broken even on the next 100k hand or even lost even 3-4years ago. his volume never was strong enough to show a substainable winrate. He's one of these guys who make money by using easly won money.
Give anyone average 200k today and they can substain a good lifestyle at 2/4+ bumhunting/getting rakeback/etcetc. Really easy without the stress of money.

Yet yourdoom is still probably a really decent 1on1 coach for 200 and less players. Not for as much as he charge though. He obviously doesnt suck donkey balls. He knows the poker math and he can approach poker pretty decently. People just need to know that written courses are a major ****ty scam.
whew. thanks for this. prolly saved me lots of money.
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12-01-2013 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1
So again...how much $ was won in 2013?
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