one last thing, if you took the phrase by itself:

No actions can be taken with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet.

it would be totally absurd. you wouldn't be able to come ITT and say anything to silentone because it might tilt him and cause him to lose said bet, etc.

had a conversation with WCGRider over the phone. the assumption was that jalex is the judge of this bet, and his word is final. WCGRider is simply just an escrow. fees and I agreed on the rules of the bet and having jalex of the judge.

i don't understand what is not clear about that ruling. Fees bet against me, he plays 2knl and is not a regular at 50nl. him going after the 50nl badge while betting against me is a clear intention to affect the outcome and fairness of the prop bet.

someone who is betting against me and does not regularly play at my stakes just to win the 50nl UGL is definetly not fair and is affecting the outcome of the bet.

this is so horrible, i just can't believe this is happening

i mean whatever the rules say, you can't intervene like that, fees, it's dirty as eff

It's a gay spot but this is why you make the rules thorough/explicit. there should have been something in the rules about this but there isnt. oh well.

but it is even far from "no action". the brackets are for clarification, and don´t change the sense of the sentence.

read my posts, i dont mean to be a dick but this is your fault.

read post #1353

i can't believe this even still going on. CLEARLY fees actions directly affect the bet, though he is a bettor. i don't understand how it can't get more clear than that. the only exception would be if he is a 50nl reg/semi reg (i.e. Handbaggio)..which as everyone knows, he is not. this should be over

Fees clearly violated the spirit of the bet. I don't think you realy need a spirit of the bet clause, but it's in there anyway in case you guys think you do:

That's some scummy ****.

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fees made 60k last month at 2000NL. Isn't pulling this angle still costing him tons of money in opportunity cost?

Someone should post this thread in HSNL and see what kind of reaction it gets there.

why do you keep ignoring the other half of the rule?

thats the full rule, not just...

that is all you and fees are focusing on within that rule.

WRT running it past a respected member of the 2p2 community, I don't think they get more respected then Noah.

fees is donk! fees is donk! cant lose, then don't bet!

I once made a bet with a friend that he couldn't walk a few miles in my city without wearing shoes. he wore socks, and i learned a valuable lesson about props.

This.

Tumaterminator, I dont understand how u can defend Fees from a moral standpoint.

because that's what matters. it was used to clarify an ambiguously worded rule.

People will always try to find angles to try to make more money. Human mentality I guess.

because this is ethics not morals?

Jalex hasn't ruled on this yet right?

I think if Jalex is feeling charitable, he'll say fees isnt eligible for UG and bet will go on. Other than that I think his bet needs to be forfeited.

I think the fact he was going for the badge himself and not at Silent's tables slowing him down or winning money off him means the bet hasnt been compromised and Fees bet doesnt necessarily need to be forfeited. Im sure Jalex will come to a good decision though.

you're trying to stand on high ground and it's crumbling under you, you donk.

"because this is ethics not morals"

lol

i did, but that doesn´t mean i agree.
it depends on where u draw the line of a fair prop bet. posting chit is unfair? can anyone prove trashtalk changes winrates? not to me.
it is unfair when a NL2k player angle-shoots because he found a gray area in the words of the rules, posts a bet, and when danger occurs to play NL50 to win the ugl. and if he wins it is proven that he affected the outcome.

I once looked up to you Fees! Karma is going to bite you in the ass !