This thread is getting out of control and regradless of the outcome of this bet there are going to be a some unhappy campers.

The judges are under an extreme amount of pressure and in no way could they of anticipated what they were in for when they signed up.

Given that the bettors, Op, and judges agree i would suggest an arrbitration commitee be established. This should be easly done by inlisting 3,5,7 an Odd number of indiviuals whom are unbiased on the outcome of this wager.

Allow this commmitee to get together and discuss the bet and the numerous questionable situations arising within it. Then come out with a reasonable fair judgement for all parties involved. Assuming this is nessesary after the final winning figure is established.

I would be happy to help orchastate this, given it becomes nessesary

lol everybody calm down. I am waiting for the judge to contact steel108 to look at the results.

No need for this. We, the bettors, knew who the judges were before the bet was made and now we need to wait for their decision and trust that theyre committed to giving us a 100% fair decision. I can speak for myself that I 100% trust the judges on this.

I think not giving you a free $2 on principle warrants playing through a hand that would cost you $1200

u sir are overestimating the accuracy of HEM. just because a HEM graph says u hit the target doesn't make it so.

sorry about all this. i don't care who wins the bet. i dont have it out for DP. i've just been reading this thread everyday all month and have become invested. i know it's alot of $$$$, but really the integrity of the bet is very important and its more important than the money. i'm just the kind of person who really values a fair just verdict and this HEM says i win thing just isnt enough.

Fgator sitting in was clearly a misunderstanding, caused by himself not thinking clearly and of course DPred as well since he brought it up, knowing it was against the rules. It's really hard to know whether something is a joke/sarcasm/irony or whatever when it's just posted somewhere as most of you understand.
I'm not going to point any fingers now but it would make sense for DPred to fold 100% of his blinds if he accidently post it against a player when it clearly breaks the rules. Since the judge escrow 1.2k from Fgators he can easily ask Fgators to just send the blind back. Knowing that he will have to obey.
If the judge stepped in and spoke to the people involved, Fgators and DPred both would realize it's a misunderstanding and there wouldn't be any problem.
Point is, next time, whenever there's something that's even close to a rule regulation. Just stop and see what the judge says, don't act on your own and expect everyone to be on your side.

and the judge really should be doing all the "work". he shouldnt just teamview steel and take his word for it (this isnt a insult to steel, as he seems very reputable).

still got questions about what work is involved in this dpred?

basically I have got it confirmed 3 times. The exact same numbers....

And since there are 0 import errors, i think its pretty bulletproof

LOL this is def my favorite post in all this nonsense.

I don't know either of you personally. I would say

1) Don't get so emotional you sound like an idiot when you do.
2) I think you are going to lose this either way so whats the worry?
3) The most intelligent thing in all this is just to get a clean set of HH's from Stars and import into a fresh DB. Date/time stamp the obvious win and ship the bet to Dpred...

Overall don't take a prop bet and then be an emotional tool about it.

sorry. didn't see it said anywhere in thread stated that there we're zero errors. how can u find HH import errors in HEM. i still think cross checkng it with player audit is necessary.

it matches 100% with the player audit. But you cant find out if I reached 40k or not. It will only show total profit at the end.

sorry dpred and bettors some of that real life stuff came up with the family and had to take care of things, I'll PM steel108 about hoping on mikogo right meow

no problem sir

So how far are you off SNE Dpred?

congrats then. out of curiosity was there a change in the result when u received the full month HHs directly from stars and did that resolve any errors. im still curious how u find HH errors in HEM.

whatever filepath to HM/importing/logs


Source: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/mana...e-located.html

Congrats, I guess?

Also, wouldn't the simplest thing to have done with the FGators thing is disregard the results of that one hand?

Fair all around, imo.

Seems that it doesn't matter, so huzzah!

for the longest time ITT, I thought fgators was a certain type of person who reads a graph a certain way... only recently I figured out that it was a screen name of a bettor / poster...

ha ha ...

I think everyone should just wait to hear what a judge has to say...

pretty crazy its taking this long though...

I never participated in a prop bet online, and dont want to...

never want anyone knowing my screen name either...

80k VPPs.

Wow just wow

wouldnt this bet be much easier to settle if donkpredator limited himself to only playing 2-4PLO for the 31 days and 2-4PLO only. meaning no STT's, MTT's or any other cash games so the winnings/losses would be much easier to track. he could have then provided a screenshot of his cashier balance at the beginning of the bet and one screenshot at the end of the 31 days while providing proof of his transaction history clarifying no tampering has been used to fund his account. this way would have been much easier as u woudlnt need to rely on Holdem manager or pokerstars to verify the accuracy of the bet.

results oriented^ (and no lol, that would be ******ed). I did not think pokerstars would refuse to verify the results.

thread would be dead if they did.

it was just a thought for maybe future bets to keep things simple, thats all.

btw asked u earlier but i dont think u answered it. how do u stay cool while playing 24 tables of PLO? u must be desensitized to downswings by now.