We have to play the same sngs, otherwise there is no chance to reach that volume of games. I'd start in feburary too, but there is no way doing it in 29 days, so we can start 1th feb and end it on 2nd march. Ill discuss with luke and he'll let you know. We can also use webcams to comfirm that we are playing, but dont know how that work exactly, so someone has to give me step by steps for that.
odds will be still 3 to 1 in our favour.

Thinking about it judges are going to have to check out a huge amount of hands between you both.

these are 180man sitandgos lol at colluding

Also lol at you cant do it in feb because feb has 29 days. Then make the bet "in 31days" problem solved.

So r/f dumb spots, not taking or making clear shoves / calls versus one another or in a manner that affected a particular player positively would obviously have no impact. I'd presume they are going to play 4000 hands together during the prop.

Lol at your complete dismissal.

Fwiw I've played with luke a bunch over the years in 9 mans but as I previously alluded to bettors require more detailed information. I'm not in anyway implying cheating but these things should be covered first.

Cool story bro.

Instead of talking, just do **** do it and stop ruining this thread.

I didnt realize he was derailing/douching up this thread that much. I think maybe you should start your own thread Nisash.

You realize I already asked for odds and got an offer for 1:1?

If you got such a big mouth then feel free to bet against me, my 10k vs your 30k and I do 10k games and 5k profit

And no Im not derailing this thread. I even counted how much of those start at peakhours and its easy to do(Its like 45 games/hour).

You realize I just asked you to start your own thread

And yes you are derailing this thread when you start trying to make your own propbet. Add relevant facts and gtfo is all you should be doing. Not trying to be some big hardass I can do x with x. Who cares what you can do? Like I stated earlier, it is what they can do.

300 plz, ty

Your post wasn`t even there when I was writing mine. No need to flame,especially as a mod.
Also I`m not going to open a thread as I know that I won´t get enough action nor good enough odds to make it worth my while(I asked in the 180s thread and got 1:1 ...).

This bet won`t happen anyways and yeah to pleasure you all I`m out of here

Who the hell is flaming, Im stating the obvious facts from your posts.

Also:



A picture is worth 1000 words

I can understand about ur concerns that we could collude at the 180s when we play like 6k games together. Ill accept all methods to guarantee you, that we won't collude in any ways. I can upload all hands against Luke after the bet.

Uhm... yeah, about the time. Luke wanted to do that bet in march for some reasons. If we can get enough bettors to fill the 15k$, ill be willing playing from 1st feb to the 2nd of march (31 days), and after that luke playing in march for 31 days. Then there won't be any concerns about we colluding at the games, if that is what makes you feel better ;-). If i cant make it in Feb, luke doesnt even have to play in march ;P

Please, if you want to bet on this, make sure u reserve ur $'s in January. Ill ask luke to update the reserved amount tomorrow.

I can see you both doing the volume fine because you can just beast the last week and play like 3k games if you need to.
Profits are harder to predict i really don't see how you can both do this. Not enough to take a punt though.

I will give you 2:1. Also make your own thread

Def +1 on the webcam and moving this forward

i know a player who plays 400 180s a day at multiple limits, but whether 8k is the record im unsure

Imagine all the sucidies that would take place from penny grinders if 180 $2.20 turbos was ever removed by stars.

For me however, I couldn't imagine anything more suicidal than grinding penny 180's all day every day for a month Each to there own though! lol

Good luck both though, no idea who will win or anything.

I haven't bet on a prop bet like this before so excuse my dumbness please.

If i bet $300 for them to fail i would get $400 back ?

If thats correct thats a 1/3 shot thats poor odds imo.

charge your laptob

BrickPlz, I would say It's almost free money actually. It would be tough to make $4k in a month for one person, but for two guys to do it is close to impossible. If it was two high stakes ballers then maybe, but judging by their ss stats they aren't exactly ballers (obv solid though), and neither of them have a proven record in said games over a large enough sample to suggest this will be anything but the hardest grind of their lives. A large part is mental and if one of them is even slightly weak in the mind it'll blow the whole thing. One small crack and they're both f.ucked.

I speak with some experience of prop betting $2 180s. It's disgusting how things can go in these, and anyone who thinks they can comfortably maintain a "normal" roi whilst mega tabling hours on end day after day under extreme pressure with little to no sleep is deluded, as I was, twice.

Little to no sleep? i think most people can sleep just fine if they only work 8-10 hours a day.

$4k in a month isn't very difficult, if they hit 8k games they would have to be like 20%+ roi under ev to not have $4k or so profit, yes that's possible, but it's not going to happen enough to make the odds they're offering reasonable.

If anything i said is wrong feel free to correct me

It's very, very hard to sleep properly after 10+ hours of grinding 20+ tables. And then to do it day in day out. Your patterns change, some days you'll be too hyped up to sleep and then you're talking about working off maybe 3 hours sleep max, it begins to get very hard after a week. $4k is difficult my friend, it looks ez on paper but just ask anyone who has attempted this, nobody (as far as I'm aware) has hit $4k in one of these props, there are a quite a few who've tried. Pokerguru did it in 30 days but the games were a lot softer then and he was a lot better than your average reg, plus he almost certainly ran hot since he did it in less than 4k games.

@Hellnative - thanks for your input .

My opinion is similar to yours i doubt they can both do it.
But 1/3 is not working for me.

I bet sports and i would never bet on a team if their odds were 1/3 or worse no matter how much i think they will win the game.

Why would they have to run 20% under EV? that's assuming their lifetime 2.50/180 ROI is 40%? They need to complete 8k games and maintain 20% ROI just to complete this bet.

Numbers are numbers. You wouldn't turn down a bet of pulling a white ball from 99 white and 1 red ball if I laid you 1:3.

Obviously this bet can't be worked out on paper - there are too many factors. Imo this is why prop bets are prop bets. If it's a really good bet, then nobody should be able to accurately predict the outcome

il bet 5k if it becomes 2-1