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06-13-2008 , 07:22 PM
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The title pretty much says it. Please post a 100K+ hands PokerEV graph that looks worse than mine because I'm starting to feel like punching a baby.

Yes, I know about FGators syndrome. Working on that. But 23 buy-ins below EV after 140K hands? WTF?
Oh, before some smartass asks about stakes: Hands 0-80K are mostly NL200-NL600 while hands 80K-140K are mostly NL100/NL50 (and some NL200).
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06-13-2008 , 07:22 PM
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I think the problem is that you just suck
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06-13-2008 , 07:23 PM
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06-13-2008 , 07:26 PM
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I think the problem is that you just suck
Yes, that's definitely it. Thanks.
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06-13-2008 , 07:28 PM
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try winning nonshowdown pots for a change
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06-13-2008 , 07:32 PM
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I am winning them now. It's in the opening post. But that's completely besides the point.

Before this thread fills with a million stupid comments: The first one to post a 100K+ hands graph with a worse buyins-under-EV per hand ratio than mine gets $10 on Stars.
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06-13-2008 , 07:34 PM
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Hi, How do I find my poker EV graph on pokertracker3 thanks.
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06-13-2008 , 07:36 PM
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plz to be explaining how to see your running under expectation from that graph
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06-13-2008 , 07:38 PM
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How are you playing NL 200-600 the first 80k hands? You're biggest swing is like 1000 dollars, does not compute?
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06-13-2008 , 07:43 PM
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plz to be explaining how to see your running under expectation from that graph
The red line shows the mathematical winnings whereas the blue line shows the actual winnings.

It's quite simple really: Let's say you're on the turn with top pair. Your opponent has two overcards and no additional draws. You bet $100, he calls. He's about a 14% to hit a winning river card.
So for this bet, your mathematical winnings are $86. If you do actually win, you will run $14 above expectation. If you lose, you will run $86 below expectation.
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06-13-2008 , 07:45 PM
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How are you playing NL 200-600 the first 80k hands? You're biggest swing is like 1000 dollars, does not compute?
The graph is in big bets, not in dollars to accomodate for the vast difference in stakes.
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06-13-2008 , 09:09 PM
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FWIW it is real hard to win non showdown pots when running bad. At least the way I see it. You do run bad.
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06-13-2008 , 09:10 PM
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06-13-2008 , 10:48 PM
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[x] (contains data from untested sites)
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06-13-2008 , 10:51 PM
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06-13-2008 , 10:54 PM
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[x] (contains data from untested sites)
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06-14-2008 , 07:12 AM
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[x] (contains data from untested sites)
If you want the $10, you're gonna have to:
-> exclude the data from untested sites (you can choose which sites to include when loading the hands)
-> display the graph in BB
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06-14-2008 , 08:21 AM
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Only 23 buyins under expectation? Yawn.
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06-14-2008 , 08:22 AM
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OP, if you knew how to postflop without the nuts you would be still making money. Trust me because I've had graphs like yours a year ago as well.
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06-14-2008 , 10:02 AM
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Only 23 buyins under expectation? Yawn.
Graph please or frack off and die.

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OP, if you knew how to postflop without the nuts you would be still making money. Trust me because I've had graphs like yours a year ago as well.
Is it so hard to get the point? I would be perfectly happy with having broken even the way I was supposed to. This thread is not about Green vs. Blue, it's about Blue vs. Red. You get that?
And the fact that nobody has so far posted a graph with worse EV leads me to believe that this is not as standard as most of you say it is.
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06-14-2008 , 10:07 AM
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OP,

Not only can style cause the blue line to be below the red line when not looking at all in luck but even if that was not true your graph shows that you truly suck at poker.

If you are willing to wake up to that fact you have taken the first step towards not sucking anymore.
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06-14-2008 , 10:09 AM
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OP,

Not only can style cause the blue line to be below the red line when not looking at all in luck but even if that was not true your graph shows that you truly suck at poker.

If you are willing to wake up to that fact you have taken the first step towards not sucking anymore.
lol awesome
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06-14-2008 , 10:15 AM
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Wow 1k BB downswing. You should switch to NL imo, much less variance there. Then try and get the green line above the black one.
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06-14-2008 , 10:49 AM
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Not only can style cause the blue line to be below the red line when not looking at all in luck but even if that was not true your graph shows that you truly suck at poker.
Style can cause it? This should be fun. Please elaborate.

And I'm sick of saying it for the one-millionth time, but I have majorly improved in no-showdown pots.
This is from the last two days of play, so can you now shut the hell up about the frickin green line.


@sputum: Not sure if you are leveling, but all of this is No Limit.
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