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04-13-2016 , 08:41 PM

#26

Le shootair

banned

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 94

this has got to be a level

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04-13-2016 , 10:04 PM

#27

Isucksobad

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 16

epic

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04-14-2016 , 01:11 AM

#28

Colin_Piddle

The Colonial

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 11,917

Definitely a level but still worthy of a star or two op.

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04-14-2016 , 02:32 PM

#29

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

It's interesting how people think it's a level when someone tries to play less nittier than them and tries out-of-the-box plays. It's the same people who will turn up with only AA/KK in preflop all-ins at Zoom.

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04-14-2016 , 09:42 PM

#30

mizzoulegend

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 161

I've made less than minimum wage for the last ten years

Fyp

Serious ? How do you guys survive? I do really well playing cash games but have a career and family and three kids. How does one live on a months pay for a year?

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04-14-2016 , 10:32 PM

#31

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

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Originally Posted by mizzoulegend

What are you talking about, sir?

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04-14-2016 , 10:56 PM

#32

vrael111

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,964

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Originally Posted by mizzoulegend

Lol wat is this random jabber

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04-15-2016 , 10:36 AM

#33

javi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,338

Always fascinating to peer into the mind of a fish. I've never seen someone so consistently make the wrong decision/judgement at every opportunity.

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04-15-2016 , 11:20 AM

#34

Anyway

adept

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 887

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Originally Posted by L00t

I don't really understand any of this. Where do you guys get such high level thinking/analysis from? I've watched tons of videos for years but I can't talk such lingo.

Obvious troll is obvious

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04-15-2016 , 11:34 AM

#35

suitedjustice

Bastard

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 10,597

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Originally Posted by Anyway

Obvious troll is obvious

It would be a ton of effort to forge all those HH's.

So what? You think he's a reg who took 10 of his worst drunk/tilted hands and posted them for the lulz?

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04-15-2016 , 12:54 PM

#36

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

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Originally Posted by Anyway

Obvious troll is obvious

I know it looks like a troll when I talk like that, but it's only my frustration speaking.

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Originally Posted by suitedjustice

It would be a ton of effort to forge all those HH's.

Exactly, lol.

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Originally Posted by suitedjustice

So what? You think he's a reg who took 10 of his worst drunk/tilted hands and posted them for the lulz?

Even that would be a lot of effort to change the dates/times on each of those hands and post them like they were played in 1 session.

All of this actually happened.

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04-15-2016 , 12:57 PM

#37

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

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Originally Posted by javi

Always fascinating to peer into the mind of a fish. I've never seen someone so consistently make the wrong decision/judgement at every opportunity.

Can you pick on the wrong decisions in each hand and help me improve instead of berating me?

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04-15-2016 , 03:41 PM

#38

Anyway

adept

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 887

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Originally Posted by suitedjustice

It would be a ton of effort to forge all those HH's.

So what? You think he's a reg who took 10 of his worst drunk/tilted hands and posted them for the lulz?

Maybe smth like that, but don't really think much about that tbh

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04-15-2016 , 05:27 PM

#39

kwanho1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 716

You have trouble putting your opponents on a range. Your line of thinking isn't correct. Your lines don't make sense. There are so many things you do incorrectly that add up over time in the long run; therefore, you lose money.

It is not hard to believe you made 100k over that time frame but times have changed. Poker is constantly changing and what's optimal or profitable then is no longer optimal or profitable now.

I suggest using your earnings to hire a coach and steer yourself into the correct direction.

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04-15-2016 , 05:48 PM

#40

kwanho1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 716

Also, your mentality needs to change. You mentioned about chasing losses, playing frustrated, and changing the way you play the game. These qualities lead to a downward spiral of negative thinking which is bad for your game.

There are profitable players who go through many losing sessions but understand the nature of the game. These players know that their plays are profitable, and there's not much one can do when short term variance kicks in.

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04-15-2016 , 05:55 PM

#41

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

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Originally Posted by kwanho1

Thanks, that's great advice. Would you or someone else itt recommend BPC for coaching?

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04-15-2016 , 06:04 PM

#42

kwanho1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 716

I suggest picking a variant of poker (Cash/Tournament) you're interested in then pick a specialist who has a mathematical approach to the game. Tell him or her you need to learn the fundamentals (building ranges in different positions, assigning ranges to opponents, making correct lines, how to think in a particular scenario).

Also, I would not think about the results when you're playing at this time as you're still learning. Winning or losing doesn't matter. It's all about making the correct decision and taking the most EV line.

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04-15-2016 , 06:05 PM

#43

orb_dam_u

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,364

Move up..I think your style of play will do very well at 10knl or higher.

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04-15-2016 , 06:14 PM

#44

kwanho1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 716

I feel OP is playing a lot by instinct and bad habits from the past or what other players constitutes as standard when OP should be thinking about what he can do to maximize his EV in any given scenario.

Everyone has to start somewhere. If OP has the bankroll requirements, OP can play anywhere as long as OP has the willingness to learn and improve. Poker isn't so hard if one puts in the efforts and time.

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04-15-2016 , 09:27 PM

#45

javi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,338

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Originally Posted by kwanho1

I feel OP is playing a lot by instinct and bad habits from the past

I cant ever imagine a time in history where this style of play was optimal, let alone 100k optimal, which I'm calling BS on unless he sat at 100/200 or binked a few tournies

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04-15-2016 , 09:40 PM

#46

kwanho1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 716

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Originally Posted by javi

I cant ever imagine a time in history where this style of play was optimal, let alone 100k optimal, which I'm calling BS on unless he sat at 100/200 or binked a few tournies

OP could've been a rakeback pro at mid stakes. If he was a slight winner or slight loser and had volume, it's not too hard to believe he raked in 100k over an 8 year time frame.

He's only hurting himself if he's lying. Judging from his thought process in his hand histories, it's very hard to believe he was a winner at his games.

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04-15-2016 , 11:14 PM

#47

L00t

adept

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 723

Ok, I'll be honest. I grinded 200k at 50nl-600nl HU back in the day. With some occasional 6 max. Hardly any rake back. If PTR was still alive, I could show.

But I used to bumhunt so hard 16/24 hours a day obv. Play only -30bb/100 or worse players. lol.

Today, those players are long gone. And I'm confused if I'm bad or good at poker because if I made 200k, I must be atleast a little good, right?

Ofcourse my play was far tighter with almost no bluffing. These hands are just a result of watching some aggressive coaching vids which seem to do more harm than good for my style.

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