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12-18-2014 , 08:37 PM

#26

00001

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Villan will not play value hands like this way, going allin on the turn. When he does this its a draw like i put on the other post.
He is relying on max fold equity with his bad draw, doing this. So its a pretty easy call with ace high, pair of 22s etc.
Folding here any pair\ace high its a big mistake.

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12-18-2014 , 08:58 PM

#27

Davino

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Hands and discussions such as this are why I ****in hate poker

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12-18-2014 , 09:16 PM

#28

FranFran

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Originally Posted by 00001

u played very good. good agressive play and call on the turn with the nut flush draw. in the long run you will show a profit in this spot.

good luck in the future.

dont listen to this donkey trolls.

liar

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12-18-2014 , 11:53 PM

#29

madmansam

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Originally Posted by cam427

Based on what?

You are claiming that after a raise, call of 3-bet, flat flop and turn shove-raise villain will almost never beat ace high. I would like to know how you reached that conclusion.

LordPallidain, as I said i didn't have the meta game knowledge so the call may have been perfectly ok.

That line is a bluff 99% of the time, unless they balance their ranges then its a bluff 66% of the time and A high flush draw still has outs. You gotta learn how to read your opponents line. If the story doesn't make sense, you gotta call. WP OP. I dont trust Israelis either.

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12-19-2014 , 12:08 AM

#30

javi

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The simple fact is when someone shoves all in they either have it or they dont, so 50% of the time it's going to be a bluff, therefore you can easily call 50% of shoves with any hand that beats a bluff (22 or ace high). This player shoved on you one time, which makes all his shoves 100% bluffs, therefore keep calling him down. If he has you beat then factor that into your equation, so maybe he has 87% bluffs next time. You keep doing this until you know he is only bluffing maybe 20% of the time.

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12-19-2014 , 12:31 AM

#31

bjsmith22

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OP is the hitler of 25nl, someone stop him

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12-19-2014 , 03:12 AM

#32

GoodGravy

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I had an Israeli lunchbox when I was in my rabbinic studies

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12-19-2014 , 05:55 AM

#33

loafes

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Lol thread/ so many levels. Cams probably getting trolled more than op

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Originally Posted by 00001

Board: 4

*******Equity**WIN**TIE
MP2****16.52%**15.12%***1.39%*{ QJs, Q2s, JTs, J2s, T2s, 82s, 76s, 72s, 62s, 32s, A6o, A3o-A2o, QJo, JTo, 76o, 32o }
MP3****83.48%**82.09%***1.39%*{ As7s }

^^

massive equity of 82%.

it was a horrendus bad beat

Hand was good played. Theres nothing more to add to this discution i guess.

+1 proves that op has villains true range crushed.

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12-19-2014 , 06:22 AM

#34

AlmostShark

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who wins this fred?

massive fish OP
massive troll 00001
confused newbie cam427

vote now

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12-19-2014 , 09:14 AM

#35

FranFran

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Cum400

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12-19-2014 , 10:23 AM

#36

jesse123

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I never had anything against Israelis until six months ago. Why are all Israeli poker players in Las Vegas complete douchebags? Seriously, there's people from all over the world and everyone's cool.

Why are Israelis so anti-social and douchebaggy? There's Oz who roams Vegas, there's that creepy reg at The Orleans, Adam, etc. I need to meet a good Israeli to break my stereotype. Please tell me there's at least one cool Israeli poker player in Vegas? I actually support Israel, but all these dipsh*t Israeli poker players are making me wonder why.

****! Eli Elezra is from Israel, right? I feel better now. Way to not be a douchebag, Eli.

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12-19-2014 , 10:36 AM

#37

LordPallidan12

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Originally Posted by AlmostShark

who wins this fred?

massive fish OP
massive troll 00001
confused newbie cam427

vote now

That's really mean, and technically a shark is a fish. Have you seen my yellow line?

You're a very hateful person, u need jesus in your life. PM me for ministry if u want

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Last edited by LordPallidan12; 12-19-2014 at 10:43 AM.

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12-19-2014 , 11:21 AM

#38

AlmostShark

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it's not mean it's the truth, I tell **** like it is you should be thankful

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12-19-2014 , 12:02 PM

#39

LordPallidan12

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Originally Posted by AlmostShark

it's not mean it's the truth, I tell **** like it is you should be thankful

no you should be thankful. thankful we're not having discussion in person
i was in JROTC and have my greenbelt in kenpo. plus my uncle is a navy seal
i'll be taking apologies now

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12-19-2014 , 01:08 PM

#40

1st down all in

journeyman

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I cant tell if your trolling him or not, does that make me a fish?

And dont troll me

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12-19-2014 , 01:48 PM

#41

Morphismus

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12-19-2014 , 04:16 PM

#42

AlmostShark

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you suck at poker and don't listen to what better players have to say and I don't care if your uncle is a seal

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12-19-2014 , 04:43 PM

#43

MastaAces

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OP,
is this your uncle?

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12-19-2014 , 07:14 PM

#44

LordPallidan12

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Originally Posted by AlmostShark

you suck at poker and don't listen to what better players have to say and I don't care if your uncle is a seal

what advice have you given? all youve done is come on here and insult me, obviously because you have some hole in your life. Most likely because you're fat and have a tiny wiener LOL.
Lets see your winnings graph please i bet your yellow line isnt as high as mine

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12-19-2014 , 07:16 PM

#45

Jimmus

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Originally Posted by LordPallidan12

They go all in with air then hit their 3 outer

$0.25 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players[/b]

Hero (BB): 317.2 BB
SB: 105.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero bets 7.6 BB, SB calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (27.2 BB, 2 players) 9

Hero bets 17.2 BB, SB raises to 91.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 74.68 BB

River: (210.96 BB, 2 players) J

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[ ] 3 outer

Try again OP.

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12-19-2014 , 10:40 PM

#46

Gouchieeeee

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FYI, speaking as an Israeli - We are luckier because god is on our side.

BTW, horrible call man

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12-19-2014 , 10:43 PM

#47

FranFran

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Originally Posted by Gouchieeeee

FYI, speaking as an Israeli - We are luckier because god is on our side.

BTW, horrible call man

wtf
That's probably your mother crying on your avatar, who could blame her..

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12-20-2014 , 09:35 AM

#48

Gouchieeeee

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Originally Posted by FranFran95

wtf
That's probably your mother crying on your avatar, who could blame her..

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12-20-2014 , 09:38 AM

#49

climbs

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update: op realised he sucked and quit poker

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12-20-2014 , 09:48 AM

#50

AlmostShark

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Originally Posted by climbs

update: op realised he sucked and quit poker

update2: op was drunk and now that is sober still thinks he's good even tho he fails at calculating outs, doesn't understand fold equity, makes stupid calls for stacks and a lot more that I can't bother to add here. yet he thinks I'm mean because I tell him he sucks (like everyone else who's not trolling him)

ps: good call, keep giving money away

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