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yes fold those aces if you dont want to bust out before the money. I would fold aces preflop if the other person had me covered and we were this deep.

Disagree. Would only fold aces in a double or nothing tourney. Gotta play for the win baby....

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05-27-2009 , 12:27 AM

#77

diddy!

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Originally Posted by Jandreasson

Here is what Im going to say:

Online Poker is not rigged.

Here is the explanation: The reason why you see so many more bad beats online is because that person is not right in front of you and does not have to make that call at a live table. The reason he makes the call online is because he knows the only taunting and threatening he will here is over a chat box.

More calls with Draws, More bad Beats.
More calls with little pairs, more sets.

This is the reason why all of you idiots think online poker is rigged. It makes no sense for a "third party" or FT or PS to rig Online poker. That means less players would play because they think its rigged, which would lead to reduction in rake=profit for the site. Trust is- They dont give a **** who wins, it does not benifit them at all.

Run Better OP, or Quit.

Hey look, somebody made sense.

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05-27-2009 , 12:28 AM

#78

pujolsnet

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Originally Posted by Jandreasson

Disagree. Would only fold aces in a double or nothing tourney. Gotta play for the win baby....

in bbv, it is hard to tell who is leveling

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05-27-2009 , 01:02 AM

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eastern motors

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Originally Posted by pujolsnet

cause santa claus and God are at all comparable.

God has much more in common with the easter bunny?

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05-27-2009 , 01:16 AM

#80

pujolsnet

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Originally Posted by eastern motors

God has much more in common with the easter bunny?

im not going to argue religion, but i will disprove your angle quickly.

belief in god relies on faith in an undefinable, unprovable existence

santa claus does not deliver presents at christmas, that is a fact, no matter what anyone believes

religion relies on faith, santa claus is a proven representational figure, and no one should see beyond that, barring an implied idiocy.

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05-27-2009 , 02:32 AM

#81

Rocket Punch

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

How ya figure? They have nothing but a vested interest in keeping the poorer players.

lol.

The players screaming "online poker is rigged" are always the losing/busto donks, if the site was rigged towards them then they would not be crying and posting ******ed threads like this one time and time again.

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05-27-2009 , 02:44 AM

#82

Craggoo

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LOLOL, oh yea I guess I just fold those aces huh? Give me a break. Point I am making how you play hurts you. The sites have to rewards the poor play. In this hand the site knows I have to play my hand aggressively. I want just don't want to cash I want final table. I have the best hand and I have to bet heavy which I did. The draw was too much of an idiot to fold and the site was there to save him. If it happened 3 or 4 four times out of 10 I wouldn't complain but I am currently 90% in a situation where I should win it much more. I have no chance, the game isn't poker. It's maximize profits and with no regulation they can do it.

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05-27-2009 , 03:05 AM

#83

bicolor_le_bond

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Against both hands you were a bit over 70/30 - I've seen worse

Board: Jc Td 2h

Hand 0: 71.872% { AcAd }
Hand 1: 4.651% { QhQs }
Hand 2: 23.477% { KdQc }

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05-27-2009 , 03:08 AM

#84

OMGBennyLava

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No idiot I re raised huge preflop and called before the turn and river when the draw pushed all in. I played it perfect, which online is not what is wanted.

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05-27-2009 , 06:35 AM

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banonlinepoker

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Originally Posted by Raygun Gothic

i sincerely doubt this. despite your incoherent rambling explanation of the hand, are we to assume you only called allin on the river? you seem to imply you get it allin on the flop and the river, which seems unlikely. which was it?
edit: OH, do you mean the river was a 9 'which you called' meaning you said aloud "it's going to be the 9" rather than you got your chips in on the river?
also, post hhs.

i concur with everything in this quote. come on OP, get over yourself and your flawless poker and maybe put some effort into reducing your variance?

Can you read? They raised preflop, I RERAISED. After the flop the draw pushed ALL IN. the guy holding QQ called and I went ALL IN. There was river betting.

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05-27-2009 , 07:43 AM

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roggo

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

I lay the curse of the goat on you Phil Gordon. You will never cash again.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/228251...10861#23834334 around 2:30.

imo

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05-27-2009 , 08:06 AM

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mandroid

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Even a single-tabling *** would easily see twice the hands online than live. Twice the opportunity to get bored and make calls/bets when you shouldn't. Twice the opportunity to see full-houses crush your flush. Or in this case an OESD crush your.. overpair :/ Wow, devastating, the guy pulled a 6-outer on you.

I suggest you pick up Ed Miller's "Getting Started in Holdem" followed by Harrington's Hold'em volumes and l2p.

Last edited by mandroid; 05-27-2009 at 08:07 AM. Reason: im a maths noob

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05-27-2009 , 10:18 AM

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Raygun Gothic

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

They raised preflop, I RERAISED

You RERAISED? zomg
Which actually has nothing to do with what I asked you about when the money went in...

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

I went ALL IN. There was river betting.

This does not make sense. Did all the money go in on the flop or the river? Here you say it went in on the flop, and yet 'there was river betting'. Wat?

Just post the hand history.

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05-27-2009 , 10:29 AM

#89

NotFadeAway

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OP: why do you think that it's rigged against YOU? You're obviously a losing player, so wouldn't the site let you win if it really was rigged?
You should know that you'll never win at poker if you keep making excuses for why you lose. Also, for someone who is so sure that online poker is rigged, and wants to ban it, you sure do like playing online poker...

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05-27-2009 , 10:36 AM

#90

porquinho

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OMG!!!1 Online poker is rigged!!!!!1

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05-27-2009 , 10:36 AM

#91

gwambini

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op sucks the big one?

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05-27-2009 , 10:44 AM

#92

Raygun Gothic

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Originally Posted by gwambini

op sucks the big one?

This seems likely

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05-27-2009 , 10:47 AM

#93

vaz1981

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

I pick up the dreaded AA in the BB and one guy raises and the button calls.

lol.... the online-conspiracy theorists never cease to amaze me.

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05-27-2009 , 10:56 AM

#94

Roulette Dares

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What did these gentlemen do to you?

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05-27-2009 , 11:04 AM

#95

vaz1981

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

Live I get my bad beats but over the long haul my good moves hold up a hell of a lot more

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

I would love to, still waiting for it to happen. Unfortunately it only happens live.

Greatest live player ever?

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05-27-2009 , 11:05 AM

#96

BartJ385

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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

Another Rigged FT hand has just busted me out of the 22,500 daily and I just wasted another 4 hours of my life. 50 players left. 36 cash and I have a nice chip stack playing flawless poker. I pick up the dreaded AA in the BB and one guy raises and the button calls. I Re-raise and they both call. Board is 10,J, rag and of course they push. I can't see them having a set so I call. The SB shows QQ and the original raiser has KQ to be open ended. Well just as every time I play great in a tourney and have a shot at a nice pay day the river is the 9 which I called.

I think he means that he called out for the 9, and then it hit.

Why didn't he go all in pre? "Flawless poker"?

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05-27-2009 , 11:06 AM

#97

vaz1981

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Originally Posted by biggetje

the solution is so easy, play your own draws aggressively, because the site is there to help you

i actually lol'ed

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05-27-2009 , 11:35 AM

#98

Ontario_Tory

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Originally Posted by CCM

Maybe you are onto something. Have you considered playing the trash hands yourself so you can take advantage of the sites riggedness?

This.

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Originally Posted by biggetje

the solution is so easy, play your own draws aggressively, because the site is there to help you

This.

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Originally Posted by Bags Jones

If you know the site is going to reward poor play why don't you just start playing poorly and rake in the money?

Your hypothesis makes no sense.

This.

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Originally Posted by pujolsnet

as incompetent ******s like yourself have been told before...

PLAY BAD AND YOU WIN, YOU HAVE UNLOCKED THE SECRET TO RICHES!!

funny how you never reply to this obvious solution though.

also, lol at your username. i guess bad hunters on the hunting forum have usernames like banguns! but they use them anyway.

This.

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Originally Posted by Gonso

Anyone who claims a site is rigged, and keeps on playing there, is either a ******, or a fish in denial (or both). It's that simple.

This.

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Originally Posted by WarmNuts

yes fold those aces if you dont want to bust out before the money. I would fold aces preflop if the other person had me covered and we were this deep.

This.

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Originally Posted by gwambini

op sucks the big one?

Most especially this.

OT

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05-27-2009 , 11:37 AM

#99

Raygun Gothic

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Originally Posted by BartJ385

I think he means that he called out for the 9, and then it hit.

I think this is what he means too; though if he hadn't called the 9 it wouldn't have hit, ldo.
Still odd that he says 'there was river betting' despite everyone being allin

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05-27-2009 , 12:07 PM

#100

CardsNbooze

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There ya go little fella

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