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how not to spend a weekend - trying omaha -> 20 buyin downswing. ffs. how not to spend a weekend - trying omaha -> 20 buyin downswing. ffs.

07-27-2008 , 08:38 PM
urgh. so i fancied playing some omaha. rather than studying the odds, i thought **** it and loaded up 10 tables of 2-4nl.

11k hands later, and i just kept getting sicko beats. 3-4 buyins due to bad play, rest just jokes.

here's how it went (obv thinking omaha is easy when up):



last 430 hands were terrible:




time to go back to holdem? or hope it is a downswing and not that i suck at omaha and carry on?
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07-27-2008 , 08:40 PM
yikes
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07-27-2008 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by john kane

time to go back to holdem? or hope it is a downswing and not that i suck at omaha and fire up some 5/10 to make it back?
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07-27-2008 , 08:42 PM
just found pokerev works for omaha. time to find out if i suck or unlucky or both.
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07-27-2008 , 08:44 PM
Even by Omaha standards 10BI in 400 hands is pretty bad.
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07-27-2008 , 08:50 PM
poker ev:
total winnings: -$5,118
equity adj: -$1,414
net run: -$3,704

so i suck a bit at omaha, but my luck sucks as well.


edit: also, in my last approx 60 all in hands, rather than winning $2k, i lost over $4k. 15 buyins in sucky all in luck. those were probs all today as well. urgh.
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07-27-2008 , 08:59 PM
at least you dont tilt at all
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07-27-2008 , 09:01 PM
imo its impossible to tilt in omaha. your at worst 40% to win no matter how badly you play.
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07-27-2008 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by john kane
imo its impossible to tilt in omaha. your at worst 40% to win no matter how badly you play.
well played sir
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07-27-2008 , 10:33 PM
i thought id attempt to shortstack 100plo... i lost many a choo choo buyin.. somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 over 2 days... back to full stacking
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07-27-2008 , 10:47 PM
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07-27-2008 , 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by john kane
time to go back to holdem? or hope it is a downswing and not that i suck at omaha and carry on?
20BI is pretty standard.Keep 100BI roll for your main game, then just take degen shots from time to time.
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07-27-2008 , 11:33 PM
OP,

I suck at omaha too. Want to play HU 10 20 plo just for practice??
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07-28-2008 , 12:19 AM
yo you should consider taking steps to learn PLO rather than just jumping in. I can recommend some good videos for you if you'd like

And if you're too lazy to watch videos, at least open up propokertools' website and run some equities to get a feel for where things stand in some common situations
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07-28-2008 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ Sensei
yo you should consider taking steps to learn PLO rather than just jumping in. I can recommend some good videos for you if you'd like

And if you're too lazy to watch videos, at least open up propokertools' website and run some equities to get a feel for where things stand in some common situations

wtf this kind of strategy bs isnt allowed in bbv
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07-28-2008 , 07:56 AM
i felt like i deserved to run well, not sure why, just felt that life owed me a bit of an upswing. obv god decided to kick me in the balls instead.

Quote:
yo you should consider taking steps to learn PLO rather than just jumping in. I can recommend some good videos for you if you'd like

And if you're too lazy to watch videos, at least open up propokertools' website and run some equities to get a feel for where things stand in some common situations
yeah i should have learnt before jumping in, but hoped id be breakeven and would learn whislt playing. if i can be bothered i will learn the odds first, then watch some videos. i have the worst form of laziness, i make the effort to sign up and pay monthly, but not the effort to watch any videos. thouogh i may check out what vids you guys have, would be interesting to know how to play rather than forming my own unorthodox theories on how to play omaha.
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07-28-2008 , 08:08 AM
To summarize:
Learn how to play a new game at low stakes first.
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07-28-2008 , 08:12 AM
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i make the effort to sign up and pay monthly, but not the effort to watch any videos.
Go go! You can watch some amazing good videos on DC, PLO videos featured by Vanessa Selbst are just awesome!
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07-28-2008 , 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropic
To summarize:
Learn how to play a new game at low stakes first.
to summarize:
this poster is a nit.
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07-28-2008 , 10:27 AM
i don't think very many people could win at 2/4 plo playing 10 tables for 11k hands
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07-28-2008 , 10:35 AM
cant get my credit card or dad's credit card to work on DC or cardrunners. looks like im left with one option.....to deposit more and keep my self-learning!

any know the odds of flopping 2 pair with 4 non paired cards?

that is one of the odds which i need to know. that and another 100 or so lols.
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07-28-2008 , 10:39 AM
actually im going back to holdem, omaha is interesting but not worth $x00/hr it'll cost me in being a bit of a fish in the game.
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07-28-2008 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by john kane
actually im going back to holdem, omaha is interesting but not worth $x00/hr it'll cost me in being a bit of a fish in the game.
You are denying the public the right to have another "best of john kane" thread based solely around omahaha.

Man, i need to go look up that thread again, that was pure awesomeness

Edit: if you are serious about learning though, start with the wazz vids on cardrunners. His first vid was the first omaha vid i could watch without wanting to burn out my eyes and do unspeakable things to small animals.
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07-28-2008 , 12:16 PM
i just tried 9 tabling some .50-1 but didnt go to well, i think i am def a dog in this game. dont know if i can really be bothered to spend ages learning it given i cant get pokerhud to work so i dont know if there are a lot of fish about, plus isolating the fish seems a lot harder. at holdem if i found a fish sometimes i would just try to lead him away from the crowd, find a secluded alleyway, and rape him (in the poker sense). whereas at omaha its far more card dependent so you cant really exploit a big fish as easily. which means i have to dual more against other regs who are better than me. which isnt good.

i think i may chill out this week rather than playing poker. if not though, ill take up your suggestion phill of the wazz video plus the DC videos on omaha plus go on odds calculator to try and work out wtf i am supposed to be doing.

gl
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07-28-2008 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by john kane
i just tried 9 tabling some .50-1 but didnt go to well, i think i am def a dog in this game. dont know if i can really be bothered to spend ages learning it given i cant get pokerhud to work so i dont know if there are a lot of fish about, plus isolating the fish seems a lot harder. at holdem if i found a fish sometimes i would just try to lead him away from the crowd, find a secluded alleyway, and rape him (in the poker sense). whereas at omaha its far more card dependent so you cant really exploit a big fish as easily. which means i have to dual more against other regs who are better than me. which isnt good.

i think i may chill out this week rather than playing poker. if not though, ill take up your suggestion phill of the wazz video plus the DC videos on omaha plus go on odds calculator to try and work out wtf i am supposed to be doing.

gl

I would guess that your biggest leak right now is preflop. Tighten up. Play hands with four cards working together. Eg. Hands like QQ610 or AK78 ds are not as good as they appear.
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